From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alon.barlev@gmail.com>
To: "Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: "Olivier Galibert" <galibert@pobox.com>,
"Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>, "Avuton Olrich" <avuton@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Jan Rychter" <jan@rychter.com>,
suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net, grundig <grundig@teleline.es>,
"Nigel Cunningham" <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
Subject: Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: uswsusp history lesson
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 20:01:30 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e0cf0bf0607081001x6ccbd080sbe64118965d90838@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1152377246.3120.65.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
On 7/8/06, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> Just take the alsa/OSS case. It's taken Adrian Bunk a LOT of effort to
> get people to report bugs against alsa; unless you threaten to remove
> the other driver they just won't and switch to the other driver. On the
> one hand, that is choice. On the other, it's BAD. The user experience is
> BAD. It means we end up with 2 half arsed cases (since the OSS driver
> doesn't do other things) instead of one quite good one.
Well...
OSS->swsusp
ALSA->Suspend2
Merge them both, and see which wins.
Anyway... Unlike the ALSA case, people opens bugs on suspen2 (The new
system) and not on swsusp, since Nigel is much more receptive, and
because of the large user community suspend2 works much better.
Pavel and Refael beg people to open bugs agains swsusp/uswsusp... But
people prefers to solve issues of the out-of-kernel solution... The
process is as follows:
Try swsusp->It does not work/Not suited->Try suspend2->Works/does
not->Get support from suspend2->Suspend2 works->Suspend2 better->User
happy.
Best Regards,
Alon Bar-Lev.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-08 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-26 15:47 Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 13:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 15:22 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Brad Campbell
2006-06-27 15:41 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-27 16:01 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-06-27 22:23 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:22 ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm) Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:38 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-27 22:51 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 23:18 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 19:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:19 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:24 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:37 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:46 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 23:06 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-28 23:09 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 8:56 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2006-06-28 19:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-06 19:15 ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability Jan Rychter
2006-07-07 13:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 14:05 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Rohan Dhruva
2006-07-07 18:21 ` David Fox
2006-07-07 21:42 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:03 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-07 23:19 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 18:03 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:19 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-07 16:09 ` grundig
2006-07-07 17:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 21:56 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:25 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 23:33 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 0:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 0:28 ` uswsusp history lesson [was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability] Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 3:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 10:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 11:13 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 18:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:35 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:42 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 12:52 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 13:26 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 21:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 18:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 21:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:54 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 0:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 10:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 12:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 21:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 22:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 22:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 23:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-12 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-12 10:16 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 4:33 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-08 11:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 4:58 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 9:11 ` uswsusp history lesson Jan Rychter
2006-07-08 10:14 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 10:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 11:11 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:13 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:16 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 13:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 22:32 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 16:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 16:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 17:01 ` Alon Bar-Lev [this message]
2006-07-08 19:36 ` grundig
2006-07-08 17:49 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 18:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 21:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-09 0:19 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 17:39 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-08 23:57 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <ce9ef0d90607080942w685a6b60q7611278856c78ac0@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 16:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 19:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 20:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 9:11 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-10 9:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-10 10:02 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 21:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 23:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 23:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 12:45 ` Thomas Tuttle
2006-07-10 13:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <ce9ef0d90607081248n1f2fc79fw199b493f3ca6313@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 19:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 20:13 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 20:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:46 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 23:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:18 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 0:32 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 1:05 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 13:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:06 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-10 3:57 ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-10 6:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 14:47 ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-11 20:13 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-10 0:28 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 12:15 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-07-09 21:04 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 9:10 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-08 0:28 ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability Bojan Smojver
2006-07-07 19:27 ` Hua Zhong
2006-07-07 21:10 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-07 23:48 ` Christian Trefzer
2006-06-27 16:50 ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm dirk husemann
2006-06-27 19:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 19:19 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-27 21:47 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 6:00 ` Brad Campbell
2006-06-28 20:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 6:09 ` Markus Gaugusch
[not found] ` <200606271940.23934.jaroslav@aster.pl>
[not found] ` <1e1a7e1b0606280228y6c4a0d19p12f8112d216d1aba@mail.gmail.com>
2006-06-28 11:31 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Tim Dijkstra
2006-06-27 23:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
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