From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Jeffrey E Altman' <jaltman@auristor.com>, Kenny Ho <y2kenny@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Marc Dionne <marc.dionne@auristor.com>,
Kenny Ho <Kenny.Ho@amd.com>, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"linux-afs@lists.infradead.org" <linux-afs@lists.infradead.org>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] Remove hardcoded static string length
Date: Mon, 29 May 2023 13:32:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ef0c93114814352877825321e9e2826@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c22f76b1-0559-410f-38f2-266e1a9fcca5@auristor.com>
From: Jeffrey E Altman
> Sent: 27 May 2023 16:09
>
> On 5/25/2023 11:37 AM, Kenny Ho wrote:
> > On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 11:04 AM David Laight<David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> >>> "The standard formulation seems to be: <project> <version> built
> >>> <yyyy>-<mm>-<dd>"
> >> Which I don't recall the string actually matching?
> >> Also the people who like reproducible builds don't like __DATE__.
> > That's correct, it was not matching even when it was introduced. I am
> > simply taking that as people caring about the content and not simply
> > making rxrpc_version_string == UTS_RELEASE. The current format is:
> >
> > "linux-" UTS_RELEASE " AF_RXRPC"
> >
> > Kenny
>
> The RX_PACKET_TYPE_VERSION query is issued by the "rxdebug <host> <port>
> -version" command which prints the received string to stdout. It has
> also been used some implementations to record the version of the peer.
> Although it is required that a response to the RX_PACKET_TYPE_VERSION
> query be issued, there is no requirement that the returned string
> contain anything beyond a single NUL octet.
Does that mean that the zero-padding/truncation to 65 bytes is bogus?
Additionally is the response supposed to the '\0' terminated?
The existing code doesn't guarantee that at all.
> Although it is convenient to be able to remotely identify the version of
> an Rx implementation, there are good reasons why this information should
> not be exposed to an anonymous requester:
>
> 1. Linux AF_RXRPC is part of the kernel. As such, returning
> UTS_RELEASE identifies to potential attackers the explicit kernel
> version, architecture and perhaps distro. As this query can be
> issued anonymously, this provides an information disclosure that can
> be used to target known vulnerabilities in the kernel.
I guess it could even be used as a probe to find more/interesting
systems to attack once inside the firewall.
> 2. The RX_PACKET_TYPE_VERSION reply is larger than the query by the
> number of octets in the version data. As the query is received via
> udp with no reachability test, it means that the
> RX_PACKET_TYPE_VERSION query/response can be used to perform an 3.3x
> amplification attack: 28 octets in and potentially 93 octets out.
>
> With my security hat on I would suggest that either AF_RXRPC return a
> single NUL octet or the c-string "AF_RXRPC" and nothing more.
Is there any point including "AF_RXRPC"?
It is almost certainly implied by the message format.
Or the exact text from the standard - which might be:
"version string - to be supplied by O.E.M."
(I've seen hardware versions with strings like the above that
exactly match the datasheet....)
Limiting the version to (eg) 6.2 would give a hint to the
capabilities/bugs without giving away all the relative addresses
in something like a RHEL kernel.
David
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-29 13:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-23 22:39 Kenny Ho
2023-05-24 0:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-24 15:43 ` Marc Dionne
2023-05-24 16:01 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-24 17:02 ` Kenny Ho
2023-05-24 17:43 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-24 18:01 ` Kenny Ho
2023-05-25 9:14 ` David Laight
2023-05-25 14:27 ` Kenny Ho
2023-05-25 15:04 ` David Laight
2023-05-25 15:37 ` Kenny Ho
2023-05-27 15:08 ` Jeffrey E Altman
2023-05-29 13:32 ` David Laight [this message]
2023-05-30 14:39 ` Jeffrey E Altman
2023-05-27 14:45 ` Jeffrey E Altman
2023-05-27 15:08 ` Jeffrey E Altman
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