From: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
To: "anna@kernel.org" <anna@kernel.org>,
"chenxiaosong2@huawei.com" <chenxiaosong2@huawei.com>,
"smayhew@redhat.com" <smayhew@redhat.com>
Cc: "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"liuyongqiang13@huawei.com" <liuyongqiang13@huawei.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"yi.zhang@huawei.com" <yi.zhang@huawei.com>,
"zhangxiaoxu5@huawei.com" <zhangxiaoxu5@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next 1/2] nfs: nfs{,4}_file_flush should consume writeback error
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:27:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9fc83915a24d7b65d743910dd0f0e5f3d0373596.camel@hammerspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ccd017a4-31f1-297f-b2e2-e71eb16f1159@huawei.com>
On Tue, 2022-04-12 at 22:12 +0800, chenxiaosong (A) wrote:
> 在 2022/4/12 21:56, Trond Myklebust 写道:
> > On Tue, 2022-04-12 at 21:46 +0800, chenxiaosong (A) wrote:
> > >
> > > Other filesystem will _not_ clear writeback error on close().
> > > And other filesystem will _not_ clear writeback error on async
> > > write() too.
> > >
> > > Other filesystem _only_ clear writeback error on fsync() or sync
> > > write().
> > >
> >
> > Yes. We might even consider not reporting writeback errors at all
> > in
> > close(), since most developers don't check it. We certainly don't
> > want
> > to clear those errors there because the manpages don't document
> > that as
> > being the case.
> >
> > > Should NFS follow the same semantics as all the other
> > > filesystems?
> >
> > It needs to follow the semantics described in the manpage for
> > write(2)
> > and fsync(2) as closely as possible, yes. That documentation is
> > supposed to be normative for application developers.
> >
> > We won't guarantee to immediately report ENOSPC like other
> > filesystems
> > do (because that would require us to only support synchronous
> > writes),
> > however that behaviour is already documented in the manpage.
> >
> > We may also report some errors that are not documented in the
> > manpage
> > (e.g. EACCES or EROFS) simply because those errors cannot always be
> > reported at open() time, as would be the case for a local
> > filesystem.
> > That's just how the NFS protocol works (particularly for the case
> > of
> > the stateless NFSv3 protocol).
> >
>
> After merging your patchset, NFS will clear wb error on async
> write(),
> is this reasonable?
>
It will clear ENOSPC, EDQUOT and EFBIG. It should not clear other
errors that are not supposed to be reported by write().
> And more importantly, we can not detect new error by using
> filemap_sample_wb_err()/filemap_sample_wb_err() while
> nfs_wb_all(),just
> as I described:
>
> ```c
> since = filemap_sample_wb_err() = 0
> errseq_sample
> if (!(old & ERRSEQ_SEEN)) // nobody see the error
> return 0;
> nfs_wb_all // no new error
> error = filemap_check_wb_err(..., since) != 0 // unexpected error
> ```
As I keep repeating, that is _documented behaviour_!
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-12 14:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-05 12:46 [PATCH -next 0/2] nfs: check writeback errors correctly ChenXiaoSong
2022-03-05 12:46 ` [PATCH -next 1/2] nfs: nfs{,4}_file_flush should consume writeback error ChenXiaoSong
2022-03-05 16:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2022-03-06 3:54 ` chenxiaosong (A)
2022-03-06 14:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2022-03-06 15:08 ` Trond Myklebust
2022-04-12 13:46 ` chenxiaosong (A)
2022-04-12 13:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2022-04-12 14:12 ` chenxiaosong (A)
2022-04-12 14:27 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2022-04-20 8:50 ` chenxiaosong (A)
2022-05-09 7:43 ` chenxiaosong (A)
2022-03-05 12:46 ` [PATCH -next 2/2] nfs: nfs_file_write() check writeback errors correctly ChenXiaoSong
2022-03-05 17:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2022-03-06 8:50 ` chenxiaosong (A)
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