From: Nikhil Rao <ncrao@google.com>
To: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>
Cc: vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/18] Increase resolution of load weights
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:27:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimm3xFfViZmN3=zkHLtFSNHqZ97sA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikhAF=nzJA4qg_8By=CL6t9iFPQwg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Nikhil Rao <ncrao@google.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Srivatsa Vaddagiri
>> <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 05:18:27PM +0530, Nikunj A. Dadhania wrote:
>>>> --- kernel/sched.c.orig 2011-04-28 16:34:24.000000000 +0530
>>>> +++ kernel/sched.c 2011-04-28 16:36:29.000000000 +0530
>>>> @@ -1336,7 +1336,7 @@ calc_delta_mine(unsigned long delta_exec
>>>> lw->inv_weight = 1 + (WMULT_CONST - w/2) / (w + 1);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> - tmp = (u64)delta_exec * weight;
>>>> + tmp = (u64)delta_exec * (weight >> SCHED_LOAD_RESOLUTION);
>>>
>>> Should we be fixing inv_weight rather to account for SCHED_LOAD_RESOLUTION here?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I have been looking into fixing inv_weight and calc_delta_mine()
>> calculations based on the assumption that we have u64 weights. IMO the
>> function is complicated because the return value needs to be
>> calculated to fit into unsigned long. I would like to update users of
>> calc_delta_mine() to use u64 instead of unsigned longs and I think
>> this can be easily done (quick inspection of the code shows two call
>> sites that need to be updated - update_curr() and wakeup_gran()).
>> Without the restriction to fit into unsigned long, I think we can make
>> calc_delta_mine() and the inv_weight calculations simpler.
>>
>
> I don't think you have much room to maneuver here, the calculations in
> c_d_m() are already u64 based, even on 32bit. Changing the external
> load factors to 64 bit doesn't change this.
>
> We lose fairness in cdm beyond 32 bits, at the old LOAD_SCALE=10
> you've got 22 bits with which you can maintain fairness. This gives
> total accuracy in total curr on any delta <= ~4ms (for a NICE_0 task).
> If you bump this up (and don't downshift before computing the inverse
> as you are) then you start introducing rounding errors beyond ~4us.
>
> This would also be further exacerbated in sched_period() since that's
> using the total cfs_rq weight.
>
Hmm... yeah, I think you have nicely explained the problem at hand. As
you said, we can't bump up inv_weight without losing accuracy. We want
to keep the 32-bit bound because it avoids the division. I was
exploring other optimizations in this functions, but I think what Paul
pointed out is key here.
-Thanks
Nikhil
>> -Thanks,
>> Nikhil
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-28 21:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-20 20:51 Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 01/18] sched: introduce SCHED_POWER_SCALE to scale cpu_power calculations Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 02/18] sched: increase SCHED_LOAD_SCALE resolution Nikhil Rao
2011-04-28 9:54 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2011-04-28 17:11 ` Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 03/18] sched: use u64 for load_weight fields Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 04/18] sched: update cpu_load to be u64 Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 05/18] sched: update this_cpu_load() to return u64 value Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 06/18] sched: update source_load(), target_load() and weighted_cpuload() to use u64 Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 07/18] sched: update find_idlest_cpu() to use u64 for load Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 08/18] sched: update find_idlest_group() to use u64 Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 09/18] sched: update division in cpu_avg_load_per_task to use div_u64 Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 10/18] sched: update wake_affine path to use u64, s64 for weights Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 11/18] sched: update update_sg_lb_stats() to use u64 Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 12/18] sched: Update update_sd_lb_stats() " Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 13/18] sched: update f_b_g() to use u64 for weights Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 14/18] sched: change type of imbalance to be u64 Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 15/18] sched: update h_load to use u64 Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 16/18] sched: update move_task() and helper functions to use u64 for weights Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 17/18] sched: update f_b_q() to use u64 for weighted cpuload Nikhil Rao
2011-04-20 20:51 ` [RFC][Patch 18/18] sched: update shares distribution to use u64 Nikhil Rao
2011-04-21 6:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/18] Increase resolution of load weights Ingo Molnar
2011-04-21 16:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-26 16:11 ` Nikhil Rao
2011-04-21 16:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-28 7:07 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2011-04-28 11:48 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2011-04-28 12:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-04-28 18:33 ` Nikhil Rao
2011-04-28 18:51 ` Paul Turner
2011-04-28 18:53 ` Paul Turner
2011-04-28 21:27 ` Nikhil Rao [this message]
2011-04-29 16:55 ` Paul Turner
2011-04-28 18:20 ` Nikhil Rao
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