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From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [RFC 4/4] firewire: add mem1394
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 04:09:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C815B7F7-75F9-404A-9358-FD6E3E08699A@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060205004327.78926498.akpm@osdl.org>

On Feb 05, 2006, at 03:43, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> wrote:
>>
>> +config IEEE1394_MEMDEV
>> +	tristate "IEEE1394 memory device support"
>> +	depends on IEEE1394 && EXPERIMENTAL
>> +	help
>> +	  Say Y here if you want support for the ieee1394 memory device.
>> +	  This is useful for debugging systems attached via firewire
>> +	  since it usually allows you to read from and write to their  
>> memory,
>> +	  depending on the controller and machine setup.
>
> 1394 is evil.  Does this mean that if a machine is completely dead- 
> and-crashed, we can still suck all its memory out over 1394 with no  
> cooperation from the dead machine's kernel?  If not, what  
> limitations are there?

I think you snipped too much of the description.  This was after the  
part you quoted:

> It differs from raw access (which allows the same usage) in that it  
> provides devices nodes (usually called /dev/fwmem-<guid>) that can  
> be read and written with any tool, as opposed to specialised tools  
> required for raw1394.

This seems to indicate that this is a _client_ for a IEEE1394 memory  
device, as opposed to a server.  Perhaps the description should be  
clarified, but I don't see any security issues (the kernel does not  
expose its own memory, it accesses the memory that another device is  
exposing).

Cheers,
Kyle Moffett

--
There is no way to make Linux robust with unreliable memory  
subsystems, sorry.  It would be like trying to make a human more  
robust with an unreliable O2 supply. Memory just has to work.
   -- Andi Kleen



  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-05  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-02 22:27 [RFC 0/4] firewire: interface to remote memory (mem1394) Johannes Berg
2006-02-02 22:38 ` [RFC 1/4] firewire: node interface Johannes Berg
2006-02-02 22:40 ` [RFC 2/4] firewire: dynamic cdev allocation below firewire major Johannes Berg
2006-02-05 13:11   ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-13  3:51   ` Jody McIntyre
2006-02-13  7:32     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-13 12:02       ` Johannes Berg
2006-02-13 16:49         ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-13 21:10         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-14 15:41           ` Johannes Berg
2006-02-02 22:41 ` [RFC 3/4] firewire: unconditionally export hpsb_send_packet_and_wait Johannes Berg
2006-02-05 13:42   ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-07 10:45     ` Johannes Berg
2006-02-02 22:43 ` [RFC 4/4] firewire: add mem1394 Johannes Berg
2006-02-03 11:35   ` Andy Wingo
2006-02-03 11:47     ` Johannes Berg
2006-02-05 12:59       ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-05  8:43   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-05  9:09     ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
     [not found]       ` <43E5D599.5040503@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
2006-02-05 20:09         ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-05 20:17     ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-05 20:50       ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-06  8:44         ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-05 14:19   ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-07 10:41     ` Johannes Berg

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