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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	Lukasz Majewski <l.majewski@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/14] sched: pack small tasks
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:16:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtBTs17yc_Ff9Es2m6kmvsqidwFjAxYbR0sMJSFBeGGA6A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130426123002.GA13464@dyad.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 26 April 2013 14:30, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 07:23:19PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> During the creation of sched_domain, we define a pack buddy CPU for each CPU
>> when one is available. We want to pack at all levels where a group of CPUs can
>> be power gated independently from others.
>> On a system that can't power gate a group of CPUs independently, the flag is
>> set at all sched_domain level and the buddy is set to -1. This is the default
>> behavior.
>>
>> On a dual clusters / dual cores system which can power gate each core and
>> cluster independently, the buddy configuration will be :
>>
>>       | Cluster 0   | Cluster 1   |
>>       | CPU0 | CPU1 | CPU2 | CPU3 |
>> -----------------------------------
>> buddy | CPU0 | CPU0 | CPU0 | CPU2 |
>>
>> If the cores in a cluster can't be power gated independently, the buddy
>> configuration becomes:
>>
>>       | Cluster 0   | Cluster 1   |
>>       | CPU0 | CPU1 | CPU2 | CPU3 |
>> -----------------------------------
>> buddy | CPU0 | CPU1 | CPU0 | CPU0 |
>>
>> Small tasks tend to slip out of the periodic load balance so the best place
>> to choose to migrate them is during their wake up. The decision is in O(1) as
>> we only check again one buddy CPU
>
>
> So I really don't get the point of this buddy stuff, even for light load non
> performance impact stuff you want to do.
>
> The moment you judge cpu0 busy you'll bail, even though its perfectly doable
> (and desirable afaict) to continue stacking light tasks on cpu1 instead of
> waking up cpu2/3.
>
> So what's wrong with keeping a single light-wake target cpu selection and
> updating it appropriately?

I have tried to follow the same kind of tasks migration as during load
balance: 1 CPU in a power domain group migrates tasks with other
groups.

>
> Also where/how does the nohz balance cpu criteria not match the light-wake
> target criteria?

The nohz balance cpu is an idle cpu but it doesn't mean that it's the
target cpu which will be sometime busy with the light tasks.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-26 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-25 17:23 [RFC PATCH v4 00/14] sched: packing " Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 01/14] Revert "sched: Introduce temporary FAIR_GROUP_SCHED dependency for load-tracking" Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 02/14] sched: add a new SD_SHARE_POWERDOMAIN flag for sched_domain Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 03/14] sched: pack small tasks Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 12:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 13:16     ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2013-04-26 12:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 13:38     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 04/14] sched: pack the idle load balance Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 12:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 13:47     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 05/14] ARM: sched: clear SD_SHARE_POWERDOMAIN Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 06/14] sched: add a knob to choose the packing level Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 07/14] sched: agressively pack at wake/fork/exec Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 13:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 14:23     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 08/14] sched: trig ILB on an idle buddy Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 13:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 14:52     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 09/14] sched: evaluate the activity level of the system Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 10/14] sched: update the buddy CPU Vincent Guittot
2013-04-28  8:20   ` Francesco Lavra
2013-04-29  7:32     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 11/14] sched: filter task pull request Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 10:00   ` Vincent Guittot
2013-05-22 15:56     ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-05-22 16:03       ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 12/14] sched: create a new field with available capacity Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 13/14] sched: update the cpu_power Vincent Guittot
2013-04-25 17:23 ` [PATCH 14/14] sched: force migration on buddy CPU Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 12:08 ` [RFC PATCH v4 00/14] sched: packing small tasks Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 15:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-04-26 15:40   ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 15:46     ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-04-26 15:56       ` Vincent Guittot
2013-05-02  9:12       ` Vincent Guittot

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