From: Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>
To: "Mimi Zohar" <zohar@linux.ibm.com>, "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"mic@linux.microsoft.com" <mic@linux.microsoft.com>,
Kanth Ghatraju <kanth.ghatraju@oracle.com>,
Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
"linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
"keyrings@vger.kernel.org" <keyrings@vger.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] certs: Restrict blacklist updates to the secondary trusted keyring
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 22:17:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CEA476C1-4CE5-4FFC-91D7-6061C8605B18@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230911.chaeghaeJ4ei@digikod.net>
> On Sep 11, 2023, at 10:51 AM, Mickaël Salaün <mic@digikod.net> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 09:29:07AM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> On Fri, 2023-09-08 at 17:34 -0400, Eric Snowberg wrote:
>>> Currently root can dynamically update the blacklist keyring if the hash
>>> being added is signed and vouched for by the builtin trusted keyring.
>>> Currently keys in the secondary trusted keyring can not be used.
>>>
>>> Keys within the secondary trusted keyring carry the same capabilities as
>>> the builtin trusted keyring. Relax the current restriction for updating
>>> the .blacklist keyring and allow the secondary to also be referenced as
>>> a trust source. Since the machine keyring is linked to the secondary
>>> trusted keyring, any key within it may also be used.
>>>
>>> An example use case for this is IMA appraisal. Now that IMA both
>>> references the blacklist keyring and allows the machine owner to add
>>> custom IMA CA certs via the machine keyring, this adds the additional
>>> capability for the machine owner to also do revocations on a running
>>> system.
>>>
>>> IMA appraisal usage example to add a revocation for /usr/foo:
>>>
>>> sha256sum /bin/foo | awk '{printf "bin:" $1}' > hash.txt
>>>
>>> openssl smime -sign -in hash.txt -inkey machine-private-key.pem \
>>> -signer machine-certificate.pem -noattr -binary -outform DER \
>>> -out hash.p7s
>>>
>>> keyctl padd blacklist "$(< hash.txt)" %:.blacklist < hash.p7s
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>
>>
>> The secondary keyring may include both CA and code signing keys. With
>> this change any key loaded onto the secondary keyring may blacklist a
>> hash. Wouldn't it make more sense to limit blacklisting
>> certificates/hashes to at least CA keys?
>
> Some operational constraints may limit what a CA can sign.
Agreed.
Is there precedents for requiring this S/MIME to be signed by a CA?
> This change is critical and should be tied to a dedicated kernel config
> (disabled by default), otherwise existing systems using this feature
> will have their threat model automatically changed without notice.
Today we have INTEGRITY_CA_MACHINE_KEYRING_MAX. This can
be enabled to enforce CA restrictions on the machine keyring. Mimi, would
this be a suitable solution for what you are after?
I suppose root could add another key to the secondary keyring if it was
signed by a key in the machine keyring. But then we are getting into an
area of key usage enforcement which really only exists for things added
to the .ima keyring.
>>> ---
>>> certs/Kconfig | 2 +-
>>> certs/blacklist.c | 4 ++--
>>> 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/certs/Kconfig b/certs/Kconfig
>>> index 1f109b070877..23dc87c52aff 100644
>>> --- a/certs/Kconfig
>>> +++ b/certs/Kconfig
>>> @@ -134,7 +134,7 @@ config SYSTEM_BLACKLIST_AUTH_UPDATE
>>> depends on SYSTEM_DATA_VERIFICATION
>>> help
>>> If set, provide the ability to load new blacklist keys at run time if
>>> - they are signed and vouched by a certificate from the builtin trusted
>>> + they are signed and vouched by a certificate from the secondary trusted
>>
>> If CONFIG_SECONDARY_TRUSTED_KEYRING is not enabled, it falls back to
>> the builtin keyring. Please update the comment accordingly.
I’ll fix these in the next round, thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-12 0:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-08 21:34 Eric Snowberg
2023-09-11 13:29 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-09-11 16:51 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-11 22:17 ` Eric Snowberg [this message]
2023-09-11 23:08 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-09-12 2:00 ` Eric Snowberg
2023-09-12 11:54 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-09-12 17:11 ` Eric Snowberg
2023-09-12 22:47 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-09-13 2:40 ` Eric Snowberg
2023-09-13 10:21 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-13 22:29 ` Eric Snowberg
2023-09-14 8:34 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-05 10:32 ` RFC: New LSM to control usage of x509 certificates Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-05 14:05 ` Paul Moore
2023-10-17 13:39 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-10-17 15:45 ` Paul Moore
2023-10-17 17:08 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-10-17 17:29 ` Paul Moore
2023-10-17 17:58 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-10-17 18:51 ` Paul Moore
2023-10-17 19:34 ` Eric Snowberg
2023-10-18 14:14 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-18 23:12 ` Eric Snowberg
2023-10-19 9:12 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-19 23:08 ` Eric Snowberg
2023-10-20 15:05 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-20 15:26 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-10-20 15:53 ` Eric Snowberg
2023-09-11 22:04 ` [PATCH] certs: Restrict blacklist updates to the secondary trusted keyring Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-11 22:23 ` Eric Snowberg
2023-09-11 22:01 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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