From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Ian Romanick <idr@us.ibm.com>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Add a "enable" sysfs attribute to the pci devices to allow userspace (Xorg) to enable devices without doing foul direct access
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 10:26:52 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CF99669B-7F47-4290-9F1E-A9585D7CD8D4@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060507131201.GC5765@ucw.cz>
On May 7, 2006, at 09:12:01, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>> It has everything to do with the 'enable' file. The 'enable' file
>>> lets you change the state of the hardware without an ownership
>>> mechanism. Other device users will not be notified of the state
>>> change. Since the other users can't be sure of the state of the
>>> hardware when they are activated, they will have to reload their
>>> state into the hardware on every activation.
>>
>> you seem to miss the fact that this can be done now without the
>> enable flag, setpci can be used to disable the BARs, again the
>> enable flag doesn't change that....
>
> ...well, when you launch setpci, you are firmly in 'unsupported'
> land. While 'enable' sounds like something where users expect it
> to be supported.
*Especially* since there are a number of users (including myself) who
have tendencies to go wandering around sysfs tinkering with the
available values. Not having seen this thread, I would have had no
problem doing "echo -n 0 >enable" on some device thinking that it was
a fairly standard way to turn off the power to my soundcard when I'm
not using it, and likely result in a kernel panic because I suddenly
disabled the BARs on the device out from under the driver.
Cheers,
Kyle Moffett
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-08 14:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-29 8:46 Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-29 8:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-29 8:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-29 9:04 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-02 16:14 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-05-02 16:21 ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 16:51 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-05-04 19:09 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-05-04 19:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-04 19:26 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-05-04 19:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-05-04 20:40 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:05 ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 21:17 ` Martin Mares
2006-05-04 21:29 ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 21:37 ` Martin Mares
2006-05-04 21:38 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 23:22 ` Peter Jones
2006-05-05 19:20 ` Ian Romanick
2006-05-05 20:14 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 20:26 ` Greg KH
2006-05-05 20:35 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 20:43 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 21:10 ` Greg KH
2006-05-05 21:06 ` Greg KH
2006-05-05 21:15 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 22:27 ` Greg KH
2006-05-06 0:05 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06 1:57 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-06 3:39 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06 12:42 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-06 13:08 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06 18:10 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-06 18:24 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06 23:16 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-07 5:56 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-07 12:05 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-07 19:07 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-08 0:03 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-07 13:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-08 14:26 ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2006-05-08 14:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08 4:06 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-08 5:27 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-07 8:54 ` Adam Belay
2006-05-14 0:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-14 0:56 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-14 23:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-15 0:14 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-14 0:57 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-05-14 1:11 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:18 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:38 ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 21:48 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:57 ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 22:05 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 19:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-15 2:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-02 16:38 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 16:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 16:59 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 17:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 17:13 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 18:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 19:00 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 19:29 ` Peter Jones
2006-05-02 21:40 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-02 21:52 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 23:36 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-03 0:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-05-03 0:26 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-03 1:24 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-03 1:30 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-03 6:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-03 13:23 ` Jon Smirl
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