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From: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
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	 Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/21] x86/mm/pat: mirror direct map changes to ASI
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:08:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DD80374YZEWM.1L31D2VUKK80C@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19e5012a-3c58-4696-9e4e-39e2b7d2b5af@intel.com>

On Thu Oct 2, 2025 at 4:40 PM UTC, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 10/2/25 07:31, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> It's actually anything that has _PAGE_PRESENT in cpa->mask_set. There
> are a number of those. Some of them are irrelevant like the execmem
> code, but there are quite a few more that look troublesome outside of
> debugging environments.
>
>>> Also, could we try and make the nomenclature consistent? We've got
>>> "unrestricted direct map" and "asi_nonsensitive_pgd" being used (at
>>> least). Could the terminology be made more consistent?
>> 
>> Hm. It is actually consistent: "unrestricted" is a property of the
>> address space / execution context. "nonsensitive" is a property of the
>> memory. Nonsensitive memory is mapped into the unrestricted address
>> space. asi_nonsensitive_pgd isn't an address space we enter it's just a
>> holding area (like if we never actually pointed CR3 at init_mm.pgd but
>> just useed it as a source to clone from).
>> 
>> However.. just because it's consistent doesn't mean it's not confusing.
>> Do you think we should just squash these two words and call the whole
>> thing "nonsensitive"? I don't know if "nonsensitive address space" makes
>> much sense... Is it possible I can fix this by just adding more
>> comments?
>
> It makes sense to me that a "nonsensitive address space" would not map
> any sensitive data and that a "asi_nonsensitive_pgd" is the root of that
> address space.

OK, then it probably just sounds wrong to me because I'm steeped in the
current jargon. For v2 I'll try just dropping "[un]restricted".

>>>>  static int __change_page_attr_set_clr(struct cpa_data *cpa, int primary)
>>>>  {
>>>>  	unsigned long numpages = cpa->numpages;
>>>> @@ -2007,6 +2033,8 @@ static int __change_page_attr_set_clr(struct cpa_data *cpa, int primary)
>>>>  		if (!debug_pagealloc_enabled())
>>>>  			spin_lock(&cpa_lock);
>>>>  		ret = __change_page_attr(cpa, primary);
>>>> +		if (!ret)
>>>> +			ret = mirror_asi_direct_map(cpa, primary);
>>>>  		if (!debug_pagealloc_enabled())
>>>>  			spin_unlock(&cpa_lock);
>>>>  		if (ret)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is cpa->pgd ever have any values other than NULL or init_mm->pgd? I
>>> didn't see anything in a quick grep.
>> 
>> It can also be efi_mm.pgd via sev_es_efi_map_ghcbs_cas().
>
> It would be _nice_ if the ASI exclusion wasn't so magic.
>
> Like, instead of hooking in to __change_page_attr_set_clr() and
> filtering on init_mm if we had the callers declare explicitly whether
> their changes get reflected into the ASI nonsensitive PGD.
>
> Maybe that looks like a new flag: CPA_DIRECT_MAP or something. Once you
> pass that flag in, the cpa code knows that you're working on init_mm.pgd
> and mirror_asi_direct_map() can look for *that* instead of init_mm.

Sounds good to me. If "The Direct Map" is a gonna be a special thing
then having it be a flag instead of a certain magic pgd_t * makes sense
to me. I'll try this out.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-02 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-24 14:59 [PATCH 00/21] mm: ASI direct map management Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 01/21] x86/mm/asi: Add CONFIG_MITIGATION_ADDRESS_SPACE_ISOLATION Brendan Jackman
2025-10-24 22:37   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-24 23:32     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25  9:57       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 02/21] x86/mm/asi: add X86_FEATURE_ASI and asi= Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 10:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-26 22:24     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-10 11:26       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-10 12:15         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 03/21] x86/mm: factor out phys_pgd_init() Brendan Jackman
2025-09-27 19:29   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 12:26     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 11:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-26 22:29     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-10 11:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-10 12:36         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 04/21] x86/mm/asi: set up asi_nonsensitive_pgd Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 20:28   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:05     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 16:14       ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 17:19         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-12 19:39           ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-11 14:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-11 17:53     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 05/21] x86/mm/pat: mirror direct map changes to ASI Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:36   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 20:50   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:31     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 16:40       ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 17:08         ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2026-01-20 16:37           ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-21  9:45             ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-21 11:27               ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-21 11:49                 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-21 12:03                   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 06/21] mm/page_alloc: add __GFP_SENSITIVE and always set it Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 21:18   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:34     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-28 15:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-28 15:57         ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-28 16:29           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 07/21] mm: introduce for_each_free_list() Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 08/21] mm: rejig pageblock mask definitions Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 09/21] mm/page_alloc: Invert is_check_pages_enabled() check Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 10/21] mm/page_alloc: remove ifdefs from pindex helpers Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 11/21] mm: introduce freetype_t Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:15   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 21:20   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:39     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 12/21] mm/asi: encode sensitivity in freetypes and pageblocks Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 13/21] mm/page_alloc_test: unit test pindex helpers Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:36   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 14/21] x86/mm/pat: introduce cpa_fault option Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 15/21] mm/page_alloc: rename ALLOC_NON_BLOCK back to _HARDER Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 16/21] mm/page_alloc: introduce ALLOC_NOBLOCK Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 17/21] mm/slub: defer application of gfp_allowed_mask Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 18/21] mm/asi: support changing pageblock sensitivity Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 19/21] mm/asi: bad_page() when ASI mappings are wrong Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 20/21] x86/mm/asi: don't use global pages when ASI enabled Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 21/21] mm: asi_test: smoke test for [non]sensitive page allocs Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 17:51 ` [PATCH 00/21] mm: ASI direct map management Brendan Jackman
2025-09-30 19:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2025-10-01  7:12   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 19:54 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-01 20:22   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-01 20:30     ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 11:05       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 20:59 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02  7:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-02 11:23   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 17:01     ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 19:19       ` Brendan Jackman

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