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From: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: "Josef Bacik" <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 06/13] bpf: Take a Tasks Trace reader in the trampoline glue
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 02:24:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DLH8GKM4B06Y.3HTSEM5YGFR5D@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a51c15af0d61414aa780e7646b8e74cd.josef@toxicpanda.com>

On Thu Sep 17, 2026 at 1:16 AM UTC, Josef Bacik wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 03:45:16 +0000, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Tue Sep 15, 2026 at 1:17 PM UTC, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > >  	__acquires(RCU)
> > >  {
> > > +	bpf_tramp_read_lock_trace();
> > >  	rcu_read_lock_dont_migrate();
> >
> > This is double increment. rcu_read_lock_dont_migrate() includes
> > rcu_read_lock_trace().
>
> Unless I'm looking at the wrong tree it doesn't, on Linus' master and on
> bpf-next it is
>
> 	static __always_inline void rcu_read_lock_dont_migrate(void)
> 	{
> 		if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU))
> 			migrate_disable();
> 		rcu_read_lock();
> 	}
>
> so plain RCU plus migrate_disable(), no Tasks Trace reader. That is why
> the non-sleepable glue needs one added here: on these architectures the
> trampoline image the glue returns into is only kept alive by Tasks RCU
> while the task is a rcu_read_lock_trace() reader, and rcu_read_lock()
> does not give us that.

Right. I got confused. Since rcu_read_lock_trace() CS will cover
both sleepable and non-sleepable prog types let's do it once
per fentry+fmod_ret region and 2nd time for fexit region.

We probably don't want to hold it for the whole trampoline,
since orig_call will delay freeing of progs.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-17  2:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-15 13:17 [PATCH RFC v3 00/13] rcu-tasks: build Tasks RCU on Tasks Trace readers in trampolines Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 01/13] entry: Pass pt_regs to irqentry_exit_cond_resched() Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 02/13] rcu-tasks-trace: Inline rcu_read_lock_trace() and annotate inside the reader Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 03/13] rcu-tasks: Add a Tasks RCU implementation for reader-marked trampolines Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 15:14   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-15 23:56     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-16 12:40       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 14:26         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-16 14:35           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 14:47             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 14:55               ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-16 15:23                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-09-16 15:41                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 04/13] kprobes: Expose the optprobe jump window to Tasks RCU Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 05/13] ftrace: Mark modules hosting direct-call trampolines for " Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 06/13] bpf: Take a Tasks Trace reader in the trampoline glue Josef Bacik
2026-09-16  3:45   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-17  1:16     ` Josef Bacik
2026-09-17  2:24       ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 07/13] x86/ftrace: Take a Tasks Trace reader around ftrace_caller's call-out Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 08/13] x86/kprobes: Take a Tasks Trace reader in the optprobe template Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 09/13] arm64: ftrace: Take a Tasks Trace reader around ftrace_caller's call-out Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 10/13] samples: ftrace: Make the direct-call trampolines Tasks Trace readers Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 11/13] rcutorture: Make Tasks RCU readers Tasks Trace readers where required Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 12/13] rcu-tasks-trace: Assert no reader is held on return to userspace Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 13:17 ` [PATCH RFC v3 13/13] x86, arm64: Build Tasks RCU on Tasks Trace readers in trampolines Josef Bacik
2026-09-15 14:17   ` bot+bpf-ci

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