From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Mike Touloumtzis <miket@bluemug.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Alex Bligh - linux-kernel <linux-kernel@alex.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: How to check the kernel compile options ?
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 14:18:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16YoRQ-0000aS-00@starship.berlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3mjhc$qba$1@cesium.transmeta.com> <E16YOBB-0002Mx-00@starship.berlin> <20020207041356.GA21694@bluemug.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020207041356.GA21694@bluemug.com>
On February 7, 2002 05:13 am, Mike Touloumtzis wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:15:49AM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > On February 5, 2002 11:13 pm, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > > Alex Bligh - linux-kernel wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would be surprised if there is anyone on this list
> > > > who has not lost at some point either the .config, the
> > > > kysms, or something similar associated with at least
> > > > one build they've made.
> > >
> > > Sure. And people have lost their root filesystems due to "rm -rf /".
> > > That doesn't mean we build the entire (real) root filesystem into the
> > > kernel.
> >
> > Well, it seems to be down to you and Arjan aguing that this usability
> > improvement isn't needed, vs quite a few *users* who are complaining about
> > the current state of things, as well they should because it's less good
than
> > it could be.
>
> Numeric participation on lkml discussions is not an indication of much.
> If lkml accurately reflected the state of Linux and its userbase, Linux
> would be the most crash-prone, bug-ridden, chaotic environment ever :-).
>
> There's probably a lot of people (like me) who use distribution tools like
> Debian's kernel-package to build and manage kernel packages. If you're
> used to using the right packaging tools, it looks kind of silly to stuff
> text files into the kernel in case they're deleted, instead of doing:
>
> $ dpkg -x kernel-image-2.4.17_1.00.Custom_i386.deb ~/tmp/
> $ cat ~/tmp/boot/config-2.4.17
>
> The kernel is just a program, and this is a tools problem. You don't
> see people arguing that cat's documentation should be moved into /bin/cat
> in case administrators misplace "cat.1.gz".
Cat is standard, kernels aren't. When was the last time you installed a
custom cat?
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-07 13:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-04 16:01 David Balazic
2002-02-04 16:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-04 17:02 ` David Balazic
2002-02-04 17:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-04 17:12 ` David Balazic
2002-02-04 17:16 ` Allan Sandfeld
2002-02-04 18:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04 18:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-04 18:24 ` Ben Greear
2002-02-04 18:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 23:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-04 23:34 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-02-04 18:09 ` Samuli Suonpaa
2002-02-04 17:34 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-04 17:50 ` David Relson
2002-02-04 18:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-05 22:02 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-05 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-06 9:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 4:13 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 9:32 ` Marco Colombo
2002-02-07 13:18 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-02-07 18:26 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 19:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 20:34 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 20:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 21:08 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 21:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 23:58 ` John Alvord
2002-02-09 21:59 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-07 21:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 21:41 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 22:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-07 22:13 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-02-07 22:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-08 20:53 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-09 12:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-11 16:07 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-09 21:39 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-06 16:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-04 18:34 ` David Relson
2002-02-04 21:09 ` Keith Owens
2002-02-05 16:30 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-04 22:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] <0C01A29FBAE24448A792F5C68F5EA47D217218@nasdaq.ms.ensim.com>
2002-02-12 21:26 ` Paul Menage
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-06 4:55 Rick A. Hohensee
2002-02-05 23:56 Andries.Brouwer
2002-02-06 0:14 ` Ian S. Nelson
2002-02-06 0:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-06 0:20 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-06 10:36 ` Christoph Rohland
2002-02-06 14:16 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-06 15:31 ` Christoph Rohland
2002-02-06 22:13 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-06 15:59 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-06 16:32 ` Padraig Brady
2002-02-09 18:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-11 0:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-11 19:05 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-11 21:17 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-02-12 0:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-12 16:38 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-12 17:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-12 17:26 ` Padraig Brady
2002-02-12 18:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-12 21:06 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-12 22:10 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-12 22:33 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-13 0:49 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-13 2:35 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-12 18:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 14:19 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-13 15:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 23:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 16:25 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-13 18:09 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-13 18:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 18:27 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-13 18:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-13 18:40 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-13 21:51 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 22:02 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-02-13 23:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-13 23:21 ` Ben Greear
2002-02-13 23:39 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-13 22:17 ` Ben Greear
2002-02-13 23:13 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-14 16:48 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-15 22:51 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-15 23:04 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-16 1:10 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-19 11:14 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-16 0:58 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-02-22 19:56 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-23 7:02 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-02-26 6:30 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-03-01 21:01 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-14 1:02 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 12:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-12 17:35 ` Chris Friesen
2002-02-11 18:37 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-02-11 19:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-06 16:26 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-06 17:26 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-06 18:16 ` David Relson
2002-02-07 7:56 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-07 9:12 ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-07 12:22 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-07 21:11 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-08 8:25 ` Ville Herva
2002-02-07 8:52 ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-06 11:29 ` Marco Colombo
2002-02-06 13:26 ` Horst von Brand
[not found] <fa.c5n369v.1a10827@ifi.uio.no>
2002-02-04 16:21 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-02-04 16:01 David Balazic
2002-02-04 21:47 ` Matti Aarnio
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