From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: mingo@elte.hu
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Matthew Kirkwood <matthew@hairy.beasts.org>,
Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
David Axmark <david@mysql.com>,
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores...
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:29:39 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16f85L-0005QM-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 23 Feb 2002 16:03:14 BST." <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202231551300.4173-100000@localhost.localdomain>
In message <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202231551300.4173-100000@localhost.localdomain> you
write:
>
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Rusty Russell wrote:
>
> > 1) Interface is: open /dev/usem, pread, pwrite.
>
> i like the patch, but the interface is ugly IMO. Why not new syscalls? I
> think these lightweight semaphores will become an important part of Linux,
> so having their own syscall entries is the most correct interface,
> something like:
>
> sys_sem_create()
> sys_sem_destroy()
There is no create and destroy (init is purely userspace). There is
"this is a semapore: up it". This is a feature.
> sys_sem_down()
> sys_sem_up()
>
> /dev/usem is such an ... ioctl()-ish approach. It's a scalability problem
> as well: read()/write() has (or can have) some implicit locking that is
> imposed on the usem interface as well.
Agreed with implicit locking: good catch. Disagree with neatness: I
like finding out in advance that there's no fast semaphore support.
> Plus sys_sem_create() should do some proper resource limit management,
> pinning down an unlimited number of pages is bad.
Since pages are pinned "on demand" and a process can only do one
syscall at a time, the maximum number of pinned pages per process ==
2. Which is fine.
Will do syscall version, and see if I can actually get it to beat
fcntl locking on reasonable benchmarks (ie. tdbtorture).
Cheers!
Rusty.
PS. Nomenclature: my fiance suggested FUS (Fast Userspace
Semaphores), and I am legally obliged to agree.
--
Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-24 23:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-23 3:47 Rusty Russell
2002-02-23 15:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-23 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-23 18:28 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-23 20:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-23 21:22 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-26 16:09 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-24 23:29 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2002-02-24 23:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 1:10 ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-25 1:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 13:14 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 16:39 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 16:32 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-02-25 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 18:23 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-25 20:57 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-25 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 17:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 17:50 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 18:06 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 19:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-24 4:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-25 19:51 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-26 12:15 ` [PATCH] 2.5.5 IDE clean 14 Martin Dalecki
2002-02-26 21:49 ` Keith Owens
2002-02-27 10:08 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-03 7:07 ` [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores Rusty Russell
2002-03-01 4:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-02 14:54 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-25 15:00 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-01 4:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-27 0:24 ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-27 15:53 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-01 0:24 ` Richard Henderson
2002-03-01 2:00 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-27 16:29 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-02 14:50 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-03 13:30 ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-04 16:51 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-05 4:41 ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-27 8:43 [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semphores Martin Wirth
2002-02-27 15:24 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-27 17:17 ` Martin Wirth
2002-02-27 19:04 ` Hubertus Franke
[not found] ` <3C7FDF76.9040903@dlr.de>
2002-03-02 14:08 ` [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores Hubertus Franke
[not found] <20020227163834.GF322@reload.nmd.msu.ru>
2002-02-27 16:58 ` Hubertus Franke
[not found] ` <20020227173307.GH322@reload.nmd.msu.ru>
2002-02-27 22:09 ` Hubertus Franke
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