From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>,
"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.4.x write barriers (updated for ext3)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:51:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16hyUH-0000fT-00@starship.berlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <phillips@bonn-fries.net> <20020304170434.B1444@redhat.com> <1201480000.1015262195@tiny>
In-Reply-To: <1201480000.1015262195@tiny>
On March 4, 2002 06:16 pm, Chris Mason wrote:
> On Monday, March 04, 2002 05:04:34 PM +0000 "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > Basically, as far as journal writes are concerned, you just want
> > things sequential for performance, so serialisation isn't a problem
> > (and it typically happens anyway). After the journal write, the
> > eventual proper writeback of the dirty data to disk has no internal
> > ordering requirement at all --- it just needs to start strictly after
> > the commit, and end before the journal records get reused. Beyond
> > that, the write order for the writeback data is irrelevant.
>
> writeback data order is important, mostly because of where the data blocks
> are in relation to the log. If you've got bdflush unloading data blocks
> to the disk, and another process doing a commit, the drive's queue
> might look like this:
>
> data1, data2, data3, commit1, data4, data5 etc.
>
> If commit1 is an ordered tag, the drive is required to flush
> data1, data2 and data3, then write the commit, then seek back
> for data4 and data5.
>
> If commit1 is not an ordered tag, the drive can write all the
> data blocks, then seek back to get the commit.
We can have more than one queue per device I think. Then we can have reads
unaffected by write barriers, for example. It never makes sense for a the
write barrier to wait on a read.
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-04 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-22 15:57 James Bottomley
2002-02-22 16:10 ` Chris Mason
2002-02-22 16:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-22 17:36 ` James Bottomley
2002-02-22 18:14 ` Chris Mason
2002-02-28 15:36 ` James Bottomley
2002-02-28 15:55 ` Chris Mason
2002-02-28 17:58 ` Mike Anderson
2002-02-28 18:12 ` Chris Mason
2002-03-01 2:08 ` James Bottomley
2002-03-03 22:11 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 4:21 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-04 5:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 6:09 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-04 7:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05 7:09 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-05 22:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 16:52 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05 7:40 ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-05 22:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-12 7:01 ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-10 5:24 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-03-11 11:13 ` Kurt Garloff
2002-03-12 6:58 ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-13 22:37 ` Peter Osterlund
2002-03-11 11:34 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-11 17:15 ` James Bottomley
2002-03-12 1:17 ` GOTO Masanori
2002-03-04 14:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-03-06 13:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 14:34 ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 3:34 ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 5:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 15:03 ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:04 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 17:35 ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:48 ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 18:11 ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 18:41 ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 21:34 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:09 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 17:16 ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 18:05 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:28 ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 19:55 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 19:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 19:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 21:06 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05 14:58 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-05 7:48 ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-04 19:51 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-03-05 7:42 ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-04 8:19 ` Helge Hafting
2002-03-04 14:57 ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:24 ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 19:02 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05 7:22 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-05 23:01 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-25 10:57 ` Helge Hafting
2002-02-25 15:04 ` James Bottomley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-01 15:26 Dieter Nützel
2002-03-01 16:00 ` James Bottomley
2002-02-21 23:30 Chris Mason
2002-02-22 14:19 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-22 15:26 ` Chris Mason
2002-01-10 9:55 [ANNOUNCE] FUSE: Filesystem in Userspace 0.95 Miklos Szeredi
2002-01-13 3:10 ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-21 10:18 ` Miklos Szeredi
2002-01-23 10:47 ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-22 19:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-23 2:33 ` [Avfs] " Justin Mason
2002-01-23 5:26 ` Daniel Phillips
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