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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: engebret@vnet.ibm.com (Dave Engebretsen)
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox), linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Memory Barrier Definitions
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 21:27:04 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E175BY8-0008S4-00@the-village.bc.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3CD830BE.CAB7FA96@vnet.ibm.com> from "Dave Engebretsen" at May 07, 2002 02:53:34 PM

> forms of processor memory barrier instructions.  It is _very_ expensive
> to blindly force all memory references to be ordered completely to the
> seperate spaces.  The use of wmb(), rmb(), and mb() is overloaded in the
> context of PowerPC.

I think I follow

You have

	Compiler ordering
	CPU v CPU memory ordering
	CPU v I/O memory ordering
	I/O v I/O memory ordering

and our current heirarchy is a little bit more squashed than that. I'd 
agree. We actually hit a corner case of this on the IDT winchip x86 where
we run relaxed store ordering and have to define wmb() as a locked add of
zero to the top of stack - which does have a penalty that isnt needed
for CPU ordering.

How much of this impacts Mips64 ?

Alan



  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-07 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-07 19:07 Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 19:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 19:53   ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 20:27     ` Alan Cox [this message]
2002-05-07 21:23       ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-07 22:15       ` justincarlson
2002-05-08  2:49         ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-08 13:54           ` Justin Carlson
2002-05-08 15:27           ` Dave Engebretsen
2002-05-08 15:49             ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-08 17:07             ` David Mosberger
2002-05-09  7:36               ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-09  8:01                 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-09 15:00                 ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13  3:26                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-13 16:36                     ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 16:50                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-13 17:53                         ` David Mosberger
2002-05-13 23:28                         ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-07 22:57       ` Anton Blanchard
2002-05-13 18:16         ` Jesse Barnes
2002-05-09 11:33 Manfred Spraul
2002-05-09 19:38 ` Dave Engebretsen

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