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From: Bernd Eckenfels <ecki-news2002-08@lina.inka.de>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4 and full ipv6 - will it happen?
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:14:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17k8H8-0003Le-00@sites.inka.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020827160722.GA13412@alcove.wittsend.com>

In article <20020827160722.GA13412@alcove.wittsend.com> you wrote:
>        It's ignoring something because it's assuming the user knows
> what he's doing and not wanting it to do that?  Does not compute.  

well, it was not my idea, and i dont think I fully understand all that Scope
stuff in IPv6, but I wanted to say:

The kernel is asuming, that a gateway (ie forward=1) is administrated by a
experienced admin, who knows how to set up all those special V6 prefixes,
but wants to defend internet from admins who do not know.

for a single hoomed host a default route does no harm, compared to a gateway
with wrong site or lionk local scope prefix routes.

> Did you mean 2000::/3 (first two bits zero, next bit 1)?  That would
> also cover both the 6bone and production allocations under a slightly
> tighter mask.  The /2 would cover :: through 3fff: but the /3
> would cover 2000: through 3fff:.  Any reaon why we should care about
> the ::/3 band (:: through 1fff:)?

yes, because it does not maks the link and site local prefix starting with
FE and FF (like fe80::/10)

>        Does that imply ipv6 only or does that include ipv4 on those
> tcp6 listens? 

well, depends on the kernel we are talking about. I plan to have tcp,tcp46
and tcp6 (of course udp and icmp, too) entries, like BSD has.

>        I'm not sure I like the tcp6, since it's not tcp that's
> changed, just the ip layer underneath it.  I assume you would also
> have udp6 as well?

yes

>        Hmmm...  Just be careful not to break too many scripts.  Freenet6
> has a template script with their tsp package that, I think, tries to do
> some parsing on that stuff.  That script is also broken due to the
> default route sillyness, and I'm going to let them know to change their
> route add from ::/0 to a route add for something between ::/1 and 2000::/3
> (season to taste) to get the default routes working properly.

tspc works fine for me, but you are right breaking scripts is a bit ugly.
Well on the other hand, it wil lalso unbreak some bsd scripts :)

Greetings
Bernd

  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-28 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-19  4:39 Tomasz Torcz, BG
2002-08-19  4:37 ` David S. Miller
2002-08-19  5:16   ` Tomasz Torcz, BG
2002-08-19  5:12     ` David S. Miller
2002-08-19 23:34   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-19 23:23     ` David S. Miller
2002-08-19 23:49       ` Daniel Berlin
2002-08-19 23:54       ` Alan Cox
2002-08-20  0:32       ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-20 13:54         ` kuznet
2002-08-20  6:56       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-21 20:24       ` Kelsey Hudson
2002-08-21 21:31         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-08-21 21:44           ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-21 22:03             ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-08-21 23:13               ` Russell King
2002-08-22  0:05                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-08-22  6:08               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-26 18:55               ` Kelsey Hudson
2002-08-26 19:44                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-08-26 21:51                 ` Michael H. Warfield
2002-08-26 23:48                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-08-27 16:07                     ` Michael H. Warfield
2002-08-28 19:14                       ` Bernd Eckenfels [this message]
2002-08-29  2:05                         ` Michael H. Warfield
2002-08-29 18:47                           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-08-21 22:08             ` Alan Cox
2002-08-22  6:12               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-22 12:27                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-22 18:22                 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-22 18:26                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-08-22 19:19                   ` Russell King
2002-09-12 15:06   ` Petr Baudis
2002-09-13  1:47     ` David S. Miller
2002-08-19  7:27 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-08-19 12:25 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-19 22:39   ` Kelsey Hudson
2002-08-20  6:17   ` Val Henson
2002-08-19 23:56 Leif Sawyer

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