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From: Gerrit Huizenga <gh@us.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
Cc: vasya vasyaev <vasya197@yahoo.com>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Machine's high load when HIGHMEM is enabled
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:03:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E18EJHN-0004lr-00@w-gerrit2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:40:31 PST. <3DDA070F.CF2047BF@digeo.com>

Oracle usually likes its SGA locked in memory, so if it is
set to request 800 MG of RAM on a 1 GB machine, I think you
have tuned Oracle to be requesting too much SGA for your
hardware.

gerrit

In message <3DDA070F.CF2047BF@digeo.com>, > : Andrew Morton writes:
> vasya vasyaev wrote:
> > 
> > Hi again,
> > 
> > Let me try to explain what is this all about...
> > 
> > Box has 1 GB of RAM, it's running oracle database.
> > After some disk activity disk cache has 400 Mb, so 600
> > Mb is free
> 
> And the other 400 megabytes will be freed up on demand.
> 
> > Oracle is tuned for using of 800 Mb of RAM for SGA (as
> > shared memory segment), so Oracle needs 800 Mb of RAM
> > to be free before it's start, right ?
> 
> No...  If that were so, you'd never be able to start any
> applications.
> 
> > So when oracle starts it can't allocate this 800 Mb
> > for SGA and fails to start...
> 
> Well, maybe Oracle is failing to start.  But maybe that's
> not for the reasons you are assuming.
> 
> > Where is a problem - in kernel which can't reduce disk
> > cache to allow allocating of shared memory segment or
> > in oracle ?
> 
> If Oracle requests 800 megabytes from the kernel, it will get it.
> It won't be able to mlock it (I'm guessing here).
>  
> > BTW, free doesn't show that shared memory is in use
> > when oracle is started and requested shared memory
> > segment is allocated (and ipcs shows it).
> 
> Yup, the "shared" accounting is always zero.  Maybe we should
> fix that, or remove it.
>  
> > We need to control disk cache to reduce it as much as
> > possible because it's not needed for oracle, much
> > better is to allow oracle to control the RAM
> > for it's use.
> > 
> > As to compare, on solaris we mount ufs with
> > "forcedirectio" mount option, which tells not to use
> > disk cache.
> 
> Please ensure that the failure is not some Oracle-specific setup
> thing, and then provide specific details on the problem which you
> are observing.  The assumptions which you are making may not be
> correct.
> 
> Thanks.
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-20  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-05 21:38 Nakajima, Jun
2002-11-06 10:14 ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-06 16:51   ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-06 17:10     ` Dave Jones
2002-11-19  9:29     ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-19  9:40       ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-20  1:03         ` Gerrit Huizenga [this message]
2002-11-19 15:35       ` Martin J. Bligh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-04 19:49 Nakajima, Jun
2002-11-05  9:08 ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-05 21:10 ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-03 14:17 vasya vasyaev
2002-11-03 14:32 ` Brian Gerst
2002-11-03 15:00   ` Jens Axboe
2002-11-04  0:43     ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-11-04 18:54   ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-04 19:27     ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-05 10:36       ` vasya vasyaev
2002-11-03 15:28 ` Martin J. Bligh

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