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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, a.zummo@towertech.it,
	jg@freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RTC: Add mmap method to rtc character driver
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:31:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F09D8005-BD93-4348-9FD1-0FA5D8D096F1@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060725192138.GI4608@hmsreliant.homelinux.net>

>> Not really.  This introduces a potentially very difficult support
>> user-visible interface.  Consider a tickless kernel -- you might  
>> end up
>> taking tick interrupts ONLY to update this page, since you don't have
>> any way of knowing when userspace wants to look at it.
>>
> Well, you do actually know when they want to look at it.  The rtc  
> driver only
> unmasks its interrupt when a user space process has opened the  
> device and sent
> it a RTC_UIE ON or RTC_PIE_ON (or other shuch ioctl).  So if you  
> open /dev/rtc,
> and memory map the page, but never enable a timer method, then  
> every read of the
> page returns zero.  The only overhead this patch is currently  
> adding, execution
> time-wise is the extra time it takes to write to a the shared page  
> variable.  If
> the timer tick interrupt is executing, its because someone is  
> reading tick data,
> or plans to very soon.

But userland cannot know if there is a more efficient option to
use than this /dev/rtc way, without using VDSO/vsyscall.


Segher


  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-25 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-25 17:41 Neil Horman
2006-07-25 17:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 18:01   ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-25 18:22   ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 18:32     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 18:43       ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 18:53         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 19:03           ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 19:06             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 19:07           ` John W. Linville
2006-07-25 19:16             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 19:08           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 17:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-25 18:28   ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 18:56     ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-25 19:07       ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 19:10     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 19:21       ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 19:31         ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2006-07-25 19:47           ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 20:04             ` Dave Airlie
2006-07-25 20:24               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 20:47                 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 20:50                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 22:25                     ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 22:33                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 23:10                         ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 23:22                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-26  0:03                             ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 23:29                           ` David Lang
2006-07-26  0:18                             ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 23:29                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-25 23:56                         ` Neil Horman
2006-07-26  0:02                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-26  0:20                             ` Neil Horman
2006-07-26  0:36                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-26 14:45                               ` A better interface, perhaps: a timed signal flag Theodore Tso
2006-07-28 13:33                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-28 14:52                                   ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-28 15:05                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-28 16:41                                     ` Alan Cox
2006-07-28 16:44                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-28 20:01                                         ` Alan Cox
2006-07-28 20:12                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-28 20:36                                             ` Alan Cox
2006-07-28 20:31                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-28 17:11                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 20:58                   ` [PATCH] RTC: Add mmap method to rtc character driver Jim Gettys
2006-07-25 21:04                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 21:14                       ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-25 21:18                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 21:39                           ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-29  4:28                             ` Bill Huey
2006-07-29 12:54                               ` Neil Horman
2006-07-29 20:41                                 ` Bill Huey
2006-07-29 21:43                                   ` Neil Horman
2006-07-29 22:45                                     ` Keith Packard
2006-07-29 23:18                                       ` Edgar Toernig
2006-07-29 21:49                                   ` Edgar Toernig
2006-07-29 22:51                                     ` itimer again (Re: [PATCH] RTC: Add mmap method to rtc character driver) Bill Huey
2006-07-29 23:35                                       ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-30  1:00                                         ` Bill Huey
2006-07-30  1:22                                           ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-30  1:39                                             ` Bill Huey
2006-07-30  2:02                                               ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-30 14:33                                               ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-30 22:20                                                 ` Bill Huey
2006-07-31 15:40                                                   ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-30  0:16                                       ` Edgar Toernig
2006-07-30  0:24                                         ` Bill Huey
2006-07-29 14:02                             ` [PATCH] RTC: Add mmap method to rtc character driver Thomas Gleixner
2006-07-26 13:17                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-08-02  3:54               ` john stultz
2006-08-02  4:26                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-02  4:34                   ` john stultz
2006-07-25 23:26             ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-26  0:10               ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 20:03       ` Paul Mackerras
2006-07-25 23:27         ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-26  0:06           ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 18:00 ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-25 18:17   ` Neil Horman
2006-07-26 15:16 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-26 17:25   ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-27 23:53   ` Paul Mackerras
2006-07-28  3:29     ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-28 11:59       ` Neil Horman

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