From: "M. Edward Borasky" <znmeb@aracnet.com>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:16:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <HBEHIIBBKKNOBLMPKCBBIENPDNAA.znmeb@aracnet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010927142311.E35@toy.ucw.cz>
While I don't want to get involved in a comparison between the loss of some
7000 human lives in a terrorist attack on buildings with productivity lost
due to Code Red and Nimda attacks on the world's businesses, I'd like to
make two points:
1. The losses to businesses from just these two virus attacks are
*significant*, and people are angry about the fact. They're looking for
someone to blame, someone to propose a solution and tools to prevent future
attacks. I personally think stiff fines and long prison sentences for
releasing attack software into the world's business network should have been
instituted a long time ago. Life without parole seems to me quite reasonable
under the circumstances.
2. The Linux community should *not* believe that we are less vulnerable than
Microsoft! We are less vulnerable *now* only because Linux is not as
widespread as Windows. Were Linux, say, half of the market, the
vulnerability would be equal. The difference is strictly the number of
available hosts for these parasitic codes, not anything inherent in the
details of Windows or Linux, or in the organizational mechanisms (corporate
giant vs. "brutal meritocracy", closed source vs. open source, etc.).
In fact, I suspect that the open source for Linux gives creators of vicious
attack codes a *slight* advantage, since the vulnerabilities are there for
anyone to read and exploit before they are found by an alert Linux
community. And if Linux is to succeed in the enterprise, we in the community
owe it to ourselves to *enhance* that alertness -- indeed, to be more
vigilant on security issues -- even if it's at the expense of some of our
more favorite activities, like performance tweaking.
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, Chief Scientist, Borasky Research
http://www.borasky-research.net http://www.aracnet.com/~znmeb
mailto:znmeb@borasky-research.net mailto:znmeb@aracnet.com
Q: How do you tell when a pineapple is ready to eat?
A: It picks up its knife and fork.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Pavel Machek
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:23 AM
> To: Jeff V. Merkey
> Cc: Rik van Riel; Paul G. Allen; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> jmerkey@utah-nac.org
> Subject: Re: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by
> life in prison
>
>
> Hi!
>
> > When people are crashing planes into buildings and killing people
> > by the thousands, hacking laws should be tough. The US has shut off
>
> What do hacking laws have in common with planes crashing?
>
> It was not hackers who crashed the planes, right?
> Pavel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-09-30 21:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-09-24 23:22 Paul G. Allen
2001-09-24 23:35 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-25 0:34 ` Michael Rothwell
2001-09-25 0:40 ` Dan Hollis
2001-09-27 14:21 ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-26 11:48 ` Luigi Genoni
2001-09-26 12:15 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by lifein prison Eugenio Mastroviti
2001-09-24 23:37 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Rik van Riel
2001-09-25 1:29 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-09-25 0:44 ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-09-25 0:52 ` David S. Miller
2001-09-25 1:32 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-27 14:23 ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-30 21:16 ` M. Edward Borasky [this message]
2001-09-30 21:41 ` J Sloan
2001-09-30 22:40 ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-09-30 23:12 ` J Sloan
2001-10-01 1:15 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-10-01 1:29 ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-30 22:03 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-30 23:24 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by lifein prison D. Stimits
2001-10-01 0:17 ` Michael Bacarella
2001-10-01 0:33 ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-10-01 1:26 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2001-10-01 9:20 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-09-30 22:57 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison John Gluck
2001-09-30 23:32 ` D. Stimits
2001-10-01 8:47 ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-01 10:41 ` Manfred Bartz
2001-10-01 12:27 ` John Jasen
2001-10-01 12:54 ` Ookhoi
2001-10-01 11:47 ` [Moving rapidly away from LKM] (Was: Re: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in) Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-01 13:12 ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-01 9:28 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Bernd Petrovitsch
2001-10-01 12:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-10-02 9:40 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-09-25 11:04 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-09-27 14:18 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Pavel Machek
2001-09-25 11:17 Nicholas Berry
2001-09-27 0:45 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2005-07-02 0:07 jmerkey
2005-07-02 0:59 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-02 1:43 ` jmerkey
2005-07-02 3:53 ` randy_dunlap
2005-07-02 13:26 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-02 14:58 ` jmerkey
2005-07-02 2:39 ` Paul Jakma
2005-07-02 2:13 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-02 13:15 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-02 15:46 ` Kurt Wall
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