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From: "M. Edward Borasky" <znmeb@aracnet.com>
To: "Michael Bacarella" <mbac@nyct.net>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by lifein prison
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:33:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <HBEHIIBBKKNOBLMPKCBBMEONDNAA.znmeb@aracnet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010930201738.A2084@sync.nyct.net>

I personally do not have a certification and I personally find my career
paths limited as a result. This is something I plan to rectify; it's simply
a matter of time, money and a willingness on my part to do the work. I
suggest that you look at it the same way, rather than knocking the
certification process or employers who require it.

I have chosen a mathematical / scientific / programmer career path rather
than a system / network administration career path, so I will most likely
seek an MSCD or perhaps the Red Hat equivalent if there is one. There are a
great many more *applicants* for jobs than there are jobs, and lack of a
certification or presence of illegal substances in an applicant's urine are
*legal* ways of eliminating some of these applicants, whereas skin color,
gender or age are not. Deal with it; I have.

--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, Chief Scientist, Borasky Research
http://www.borasky-research.net  http://www.aracnet.com/~znmeb
mailto:znmeb@borasky-research.net  mailto:znmeb@aracnet.com

Q: How do you tell when a pineapple is ready to eat?
A: It picks up its knife and fork.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Michael
> Bacarella
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 5:18 PM
> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by
> lifein prison
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 05:24:00PM -0600, D. Stimits wrote:
> > > wankers pretending to be sysadmins, driving the wages down
> and replacing
> > > clued people with illiterate trash.  Getting rid of script kiddies is
> > > nice, but fsckwits who are directly responsible for current situation
> > > should be first against the wall.
> >
> > Don't forget the management that is interested in paper skills, rather
> > than ability to do the job. Unless you can add some things on paper,
> > like particular certifications, you can't even get an interview.
>
> Quick survey:
>
> How many people here really want to work at a company where
> management tosses resumes that don't say MCSE or CCNA or RHCE?
>
> ---
> Michael Bacarella <mbac@nyct.net>
> Technical Staff / System Development,
> New York Connect.Net, Ltd.
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-01  0:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-24 23:22 [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Paul G. Allen
2001-09-24 23:35 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-25  0:34   ` Michael Rothwell
2001-09-25  0:40     ` Dan Hollis
2001-09-27 14:21       ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-26 11:48   ` Luigi Genoni
2001-09-26 12:15     ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by lifein prison Eugenio Mastroviti
2001-09-24 23:37 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Rik van Riel
2001-09-25  1:29   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-09-25  0:44     ` Crutcher Dunnavant
2001-09-25  0:52     ` David S. Miller
2001-09-25  1:32     ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-27 14:23     ` Pavel Machek
2001-09-30 21:16       ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-09-30 21:41         ` J Sloan
2001-09-30 22:40           ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-09-30 23:12             ` J Sloan
2001-10-01  1:15             ` Gerhard Mack
2001-10-01  1:29             ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-30 22:03         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-30 23:24           ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by lifein prison D. Stimits
2001-10-01  0:17             ` Michael Bacarella
2001-10-01  0:33               ` M. Edward Borasky [this message]
2001-10-01  1:26               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2001-10-01  9:20           ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-09-30 22:57         ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison John Gluck
2001-09-30 23:32           ` D. Stimits
2001-10-01  8:47         ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-01 10:41           ` Manfred Bartz
2001-10-01 12:27             ` John Jasen
2001-10-01 12:54               ` Ookhoi
2001-10-01 11:47           ` [Moving rapidly away from LKM] (Was: Re: [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in) Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-01 13:12             ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-01  9:28         ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Bernd Petrovitsch
2001-10-01 12:00         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-10-02  9:40         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-09-25 11:04   ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-09-27 14:18 ` [OT] New Anti-Terrorism Law makes "hacking" punishable by life in prison Pavel Machek

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