From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Cc: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>, Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>,
tytso@mit.edu, miquels@cistron.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: File system compression, not at the block layer
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:34:21 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0404231624010.1352@chaos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0404231300470.27087-100000@twin.uoregon.edu>
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Paul Jackson wrote:
>
> > > SO... in addition to the brilliance of AS, is there anything else that
> > > can be done (using compression or something else) which could aid in
> > > reducing seek time?
> >
> > Buy more disks and only use a small portion of each for all but the
> > most infrequently accessed data.
>
> faster drives. The biggest disks at this point are far slower that the
> fastest... the average read service time on a maxtor atlas 15k is like
> 5.7ms on 250GB western digital sata, 14.1ms, so that more than twice as
> many reads can be executed on the fastest disks you can buy now... of
> course then you pay for it in cost, heat, density, and controller costs.
> everthing is a tradeoff though.
>
If you want to have fast disks, then you should do what I
suggested to Digital 20 years ago when they had ST-506
interfaces and SCSI was available only from third-parties.
It was called "striping" (I'm serious!). Not the so-called
RAID crap that took the original idea and destroyed it.
If you have 32-bits, you design an interface board for 32
disks. The interface board strips each bit to the data that
each disk gets. That makes the whole array 32 times faster
than a single drive and, of course, 32 times larger.
There is no redundancy in such an array, just brute-force
speed. One can add additional bits and CRC correction which
would allow the failure (or removal) of one drive at a time.
Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.26 on an i686 machine (5557.45 BogoMips).
Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-23 20:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-23 17:26 Timothy Miller
2004-04-23 17:30 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2004-04-23 17:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-04-23 17:57 ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-23 18:14 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-23 18:34 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-23 20:14 ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-04-23 20:34 ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2004-04-23 20:44 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-23 20:59 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-23 21:14 ` Ben Greear
2004-04-23 21:25 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-24 4:58 ` Ben Greear
2004-04-27 15:45 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-23 21:18 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-24 1:28 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-24 2:24 ` Tom Vier
2004-04-24 7:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-24 16:02 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-04-25 3:05 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-25 7:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-25 19:50 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-04-27 15:43 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-28 0:29 ` Tom Vier
2004-04-23 21:31 ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-04-23 22:20 ` Ian Stirling
2004-04-23 23:34 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-27 15:42 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-27 16:02 ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-24 1:18 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-26 10:22 ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-23 21:15 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-23 21:36 ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-04-27 20:34 ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-28 22:57 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 9:46 ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-29 9:52 ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-29 10:09 ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-29 10:19 ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-29 17:17 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-28 1:00 ` David Lang
2004-04-28 10:09 ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-28 10:21 ` Nikita Danilov
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