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From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: "P. Benie" <pjb1008@eng.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use NULL instead of integer 0 in security/selinux/
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:32:32 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0407081030320.21855@chaos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPX.4.58L.0407081224460.28859@punch.eng.cam.ac.uk>

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, P. Benie wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > > What's wrong with using 0 as the NULL pointer?
> >
> > Because NULL is a valid pointer value. 0 is not. If you were
> > to make 0 valid, you would use "(void *)0", which is what
> > NULL just happens to be in all known architectures so far,
> > although that could change in an alternate universe.
>
> False. "An integer constant expressions with the value 0, or such an
> expression cast to type void *, is called a null pointer constant. If a
> null pointer constant is assigned to or compared for equality with a
> pointer, the constant is converted to a pointer of that type", and "Any
> two null pointers shall compare equal."
>
> In other words, when you use 0 as a null pointer, you really do get a null
> pointer. If you are working on an architecture where the bit pattern of
> the integer 0 and null pointers are not the same, the compiler will
> perform the appropriate conversion for you, so it is always correct to
> define NULL as (void *)0.

That's NOT what is says. It states that a NULL pointer is converted to
the appropriate type before any comparison is made. It does NOT say
that 0 is a valid null-pointer.

>
> Personally, I always use 0 and NULL for integers and null pointers
> respectively, but that's because of long estalished conventions that make
> the code readabile, rather than anything to do with validity of the code.
>
> Peter
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Cheers,
Dick Johnson
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-08 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-07 19:25 Chris Wright
2004-07-08  3:12 ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-08  3:27   ` David S. Miller
2004-07-08  3:43     ` Miles Bader
2004-07-08  5:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-08  5:35         ` Miles Bader
2004-07-08 15:58           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-08 16:23             ` Dave Jones
2004-07-08 17:57               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-09 11:23             ` Roman Zippel
2004-07-10 19:41               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-11 10:29                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-11 10:54                   ` viro
2004-07-11 16:14                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-11 20:05                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-07-12 15:58                   ` Florian Weimer
2004-07-12 16:34                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-07-08 11:18         ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-08 13:10           ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-08 13:56             ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-08 14:13               ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-08  5:19   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-08 16:09     ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-08 16:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-08 16:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-08 16:52         ` Timothy Miller
     [not found]           ` <200407090056.51084.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-07-12 15:17             ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-12 16:12               ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-12 16:51                 ` Andrew Pimlott
2004-07-15 16:15                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-09 20:36     ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-09 23:49       ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-10  1:43         ` Kyle Moffett
2004-07-10  1:47           ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-10 21:53             ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-10  6:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-10  6:23         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-10  6:58           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10  9:48             ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-10 15:39           ` Roland Dreier
2004-07-11  2:45             ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-07-11 21:19             ` Olaf Titz
2004-07-10  9:39         ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-10  9:56           ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-11 21:47           ` Olaf Titz
2004-07-13  8:43             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-14  3:12               ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-13 18:53             ` Elladan
2004-07-14  3:15             ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-10 12:11         ` Roman Zippel
2004-07-10 21:59         ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-11  4:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-10  9:31       ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-07-10 22:07         ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-10 23:52         ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-11  0:12           ` Tim Wright
2004-07-12 22:03       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-10  8:18     ` Florian Weimer
2004-07-08 11:10   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-07-08 11:28     ` Michael Buesch
2004-07-08 11:44       ` Martin Zwickel
2004-07-08 12:06         ` Michael Buesch
2004-07-08 12:38           ` [OT] NULL versus 0 (Re: [PATCH] Use NULL instead of integer 0 in security/selinux/) Kari Hurtta
2004-07-08 12:42             ` Michael Buesch
2004-07-08 12:57               ` Kari Hurtta
2004-07-08 15:25                 ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-10  8:22           ` [PATCH] Use NULL instead of integer 0 in security/selinux/ Florian Weimer
2004-07-08 11:43     ` P. Benie
2004-07-08 14:32       ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2004-07-08 15:00         ` Michael Poole
2004-07-08 15:30           ` P. Benie
2004-07-08 15:55           ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-10  7:09         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10  7:02       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10  6:59     ` Andrea Arcangeli

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