From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sds@epoch.ncsc.mil,
jmorris@redhat.com, mika@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use NULL instead of integer 0 in security/selinux/
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:21:24 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0407080917420.1764@ppc970.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40ED71BC.2030609@techsource.com>
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Timothy Miller wrote:
>
> Not to be picky, and I realize that we're not using C++ here, and it may
> not apply, but every C++ text I've read deprecates NULL and says to use
> 0. That is, THE WAY that you specify a null pointer in C++ is with a
> zero. It's no surprise that C programmers might pick up that habit.
It's a bad habit, and it's one (of many) bad things C++ does. The sad part
is that C++ does it for all the wrong reasons - there's no reason to not
realize that ((void *)0) is an even better special case, and indeed last I
heard at least gcc does allow that in C++ too.
The fact is, when somebody else picks up a mistake, that doesn't make it
any less of a mistake. And it's not like C++ is the paragon of good taste
anyway.
I've seen too damn many people mistake NULL and NUL (admit it, you've seen
it too), and I've seen code like
char c = NULL;
and any system where that goes through without a warning is totally
broken. And yes, that includes a _lot_ of C++ braindamages.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-08 16:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-07 19:25 Chris Wright
2004-07-08 3:12 ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-08 3:27 ` David S. Miller
2004-07-08 3:43 ` Miles Bader
2004-07-08 5:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-08 5:35 ` Miles Bader
2004-07-08 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-08 16:23 ` Dave Jones
2004-07-08 17:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-09 11:23 ` Roman Zippel
2004-07-10 19:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-11 10:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-11 10:54 ` viro
2004-07-11 16:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-11 20:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-07-12 15:58 ` Florian Weimer
2004-07-12 16:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-07-08 11:18 ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-08 13:10 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-08 13:56 ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-08 14:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-08 5:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-08 16:09 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-08 16:21 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2004-07-08 16:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-08 16:52 ` Timothy Miller
[not found] ` <200407090056.51084.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-07-12 15:17 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-12 16:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-12 16:51 ` Andrew Pimlott
2004-07-15 16:15 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-09 20:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-09 23:49 ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-10 1:43 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-07-10 1:47 ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-10 21:53 ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-10 6:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-10 6:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-10 6:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 9:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-10 15:39 ` Roland Dreier
2004-07-11 2:45 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-07-11 21:19 ` Olaf Titz
2004-07-10 9:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-10 9:56 ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-11 21:47 ` Olaf Titz
2004-07-13 8:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-14 3:12 ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-13 18:53 ` Elladan
2004-07-14 3:15 ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-10 12:11 ` Roman Zippel
2004-07-10 21:59 ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-11 4:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-07-10 9:31 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-07-10 22:07 ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-10 23:52 ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-11 0:12 ` Tim Wright
2004-07-12 22:03 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-10 8:18 ` Florian Weimer
2004-07-08 11:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-07-08 11:28 ` Michael Buesch
2004-07-08 11:44 ` Martin Zwickel
2004-07-08 12:06 ` Michael Buesch
2004-07-08 12:38 ` [OT] NULL versus 0 (Re: [PATCH] Use NULL instead of integer 0 in security/selinux/) Kari Hurtta
2004-07-08 12:42 ` Michael Buesch
2004-07-08 12:57 ` Kari Hurtta
2004-07-08 15:25 ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-10 8:22 ` [PATCH] Use NULL instead of integer 0 in security/selinux/ Florian Weimer
2004-07-08 11:43 ` P. Benie
2004-07-08 14:32 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-07-08 15:00 ` Michael Poole
2004-07-08 15:30 ` P. Benie
2004-07-08 15:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-10 7:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 7:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 6:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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