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From: Grzegorz Kulewski <kangur@polcom.net>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Christophe Saout <christophe@saout.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: dm-crypt using kthread
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 05:14:58 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402160510360.26082@alpha.polcom.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4030416E.9070805@pobox.com>

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004, Jeff Garzik wrote:

> Grzegorz Kulewski wrote:
> > Could somebody write dm-compress (compressing not encrypting)? Is it 
> > technically possible (can device mapper handle different data size at 
> > input, differet at output)? (I think there is compressing loop patch.)
> > Could dm first compress data (even with weak algorithm), then encrypt, to 
> > make statistical analysis harder?
> 
> 
> It's certainly possible, but you have to consider that data transfer 
> almost always should be considered in page-sized chunks.  For compress 
> that would imply you would need to allocate/free blocks and similar 
> duties that a filesystem must perform, simply because you do not have 
> one-to-one correspondence with blocks being passed to you.
> 
> You also have to consider that the kernel may request one or more pages 
> that are in the middle of a compressed run of pages.  For example, 
> consider an algorithm that compresses 16 pages into a run of 4 pages. 
> Later on, when the kernel requests (uncompressed) page 9, you likely 
> need to read all 4 pages, and allocate 16 more pages for decompression. 
>   So, reading 1 upper layer page required dm-compress tying up 20 pages.
> 

Yes, I understand that (at least I think so...). But Knopix (and probably 
other distros) use 2.4 with compressing loop patch, and I think somebody 
at Gentoo is trying to port that patch to 2.6 for Gentoo's LiveCD... So it 
was done somehow... (I do not know how, however.)


Grzegorz Kulewski


  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-16  4:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-11 15:33 Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.* Michal Kwolek
2004-02-11 18:41 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-15  2:35   ` Jan Rychter
2004-02-15 14:51     ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-15 16:38       ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-16  0:26       ` James Morris
2004-02-18 14:07         ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-16 12:22       ` Jan Rychter
2004-02-17 14:09         ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-17 19:14           ` Jan Rychter
2004-02-18 14:06             ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-18 21:40               ` Jan Rychter
2004-02-19 13:34                 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-02-11 22:54 ` bill davidsen
2004-02-15 17:34 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-15 18:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-15 18:42     ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-15 18:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-15 19:36         ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-15 19:46           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-15 20:24             ` kthread vs. dm-daemon (was: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*) Christophe Saout
2004-02-15 22:13               ` kthread vs. dm-daemon Mike Christie
2004-02-16  0:04                 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  1:04                   ` Mike Christie
2004-02-16  1:29                     ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  3:02               ` kthread vs. dm-daemon (was: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*) Rusty Russell
2004-02-16 13:27                 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16 16:42                   ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16 13:48                 ` Joe Thornber
2004-02-16  1:44             ` dm-crypt using kthread " Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  1:53               ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-16  2:07                 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-02-16  3:03                   ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  3:22                     ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-02-16  4:05                       ` dm-crypt using kthread Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16  4:14                         ` Grzegorz Kulewski [this message]
2004-02-16 10:15                           ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  9:54                       ` dm-crypt using kthread (was: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*) Christophe Saout
2004-03-01 22:18                     ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-03-01 22:51                       ` Christophe Saout
2004-03-01 23:22                         ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-16  2:58                 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  7:28                   ` David Wagner
2004-02-16 10:11                     ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-18 14:15                 ` dm-crypt using kthread Bill Davidsen
2004-02-16  2:07               ` dm-crypt using kthread (was: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*) Andrew Morton
2004-02-16  2:17                 ` dm-crypt using kthread Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16  2:53                 ` dm-crypt using kthread (was: Oopsing cryptoapi (or loop device?) on 2.6.*) Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  2:10               ` dm-crypt using kthread Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16  2:40                 ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16  2:58                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16  3:10                     ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16 13:04                     ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-16 19:09                       ` Jeff Garzik
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2004-02-16  3:58                     ` Andi Kleen

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