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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: "Egry Gábor" <gaboregry@t-online.hu>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Massimo Maiurana <maiurana@inwind.it>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	KernelFR <kernelfr@traduc.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@conectiva.com.br>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/19] Kconfig I18N completion
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:02:20 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0507131155460.17536@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1121280104.2975.84.camel@spirit>



On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Egry Gábor wrote:
> 
> Yes, the patch 19/19 contains the translation of configuration
> interfaces ([x|g|menu]config) and it is only 23 kb. The full version of
> unfinished hu.po is 2 MB and the fully translated italian it.po is 3,2
> MB. I see Linus doesn't want the huge language files in kernel source.
> But what is Linus opinion about this little .po file?

I don't want ANY of it in the kernel. 

Quite frankly, I'm of the opinion that _all_ of the i18n stuff should be 
totally outside the kernel. I took the patch from Arnaldo only because I 
was told that me taking that patch would allow external packages to do the 
rest. Now I'm told that isn't true, which just makes me pissed off.

_I_ think you should have a totally external package that knows how to
parse the Kconfig files. They have a well-known format that hasn't changed
in quite a while, and a nice parser.  Yes, there will inevitably be new
entries that you don't have translations for, and you'll have to use the
English ones for those, but the fact is, that is true whether the i18n
stuff is included with the kernel or not.

And exactly _because_ it doesn't help to put the non-English translations 
into the kernel, I think it's a mistake to even try. It's likely _easier_ 
for all the different language groups if they can just work on their _own_ 
project, and don't have to try to get their translations merged into the 
standard kernel.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-13 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-13 16:50 Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:04 ` [PATCH 1/19] Kconfig I18N: sublocale Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:07 ` [PATCH 2/19] Kconfig I18N: lxdialog: width fix Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:26   ` [PATCH] Kconfig: lxdialog: Enable UTF8 Jan Engelhardt
2005-07-14  0:26     ` Ken Moffat
2005-07-16  9:54       ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-07-16 10:12         ` Ken Moffat
2005-07-16 22:14           ` Ken Moffat
2005-07-13 17:09 ` [PATCH 3/19] Kconfig I18N: lxdialog Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:11 ` [PATCH 4/19] Kconfig I18N: lxdialog: multibyte character support Egry Gábor
2005-07-14  0:10   ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-13 17:13 ` [PATCH 5/19] Kconfig I18N: lxdialog: answering Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:15 ` [PATCH 6/19] Kconfig I18N: config Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:17 ` [PATCH 7/19] Kconfig I18N: gconfig Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:18 ` [PATCH 8/19] Kconfig I18N: gconfig: GUI Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:20 ` [PATCH 9/19] Kconfig I18N: gconfig: answering Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:21 ` [PATCH 10/19] Kconfig I18N: gconfig: missing macros Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:23 ` [PATCH 11/19] Kconfig I18N: gconfig: symbol fix Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:24 ` [PATCH 12/19] Kconfig I18N: menuconfig Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:26 ` [PATCH 13/19] Kconfig I18N: menuconfig: answering Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:27 ` [PATCH 14/19] Kconfig I18N: menuconfig: missing macros Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:28 ` [PATCH 15/19] Kconfig I18n: xconfig Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:30 ` [PATCH 16/19] Kconfig I18n: xconfig: answering Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:31 ` [PATCH 17/19] Kconfig I18N: xconfig: symbol fix Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:33 ` [PATCH 18/19] Kconfig I18N: LKC: whitespace removing Egry Gábor
2005-07-14  0:12   ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-13 17:35 ` [PATCH 19/19] Kconfig I18N: UI: Hungarian translation Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 17:41 ` [PATCH 0/19] Kconfig I18N completion Linus Torvalds
2005-07-13 18:03   ` Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 20:11     ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-07-13 18:41       ` Egry Gábor
2005-07-13 19:02         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2005-07-15 17:41           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2005-07-13 20:48         ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-07-14 10:03         ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-07-13 20:04   ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-07-13 20:45 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-07-14  3:42   ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-07-14  0:06 ` Roman Zippel

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