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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <glebn@voltaire.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@mellanox.co.il>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@topspin.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, openib-general@openib.org
Subject: Re: [openib-general] Re: [PATCH repost] PROT_DONTCOPY: ifiniband uverbs fork support
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:22:40 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0508101412530.3153@goblin.wat.veritas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050810083943.GM16361@minantech.com>

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 07:13:33PM +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > Even more I'd prefer one of these two solutions below, which sidestep
> > that uncleanliness - but both of these would be in mmap only, no clean
> > way to change afterwards (except by munmap or mmap MAP_FIXED):
> > 
> > 1.  Use the standard mmap(NULL, len, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
> >     MAP_SHARED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) which gives you a memory object
> >     shared with children, so write-protection and COW won't come into it.
> > 
> > or if there's good reason why that's no good,
> > 
> > 2.  Define a MAP_DONTCOPY to mmap: we have a fine tradition of MAP_flags
> >     to achieve this or that effect, adding one more would be cleaner than
> >     now corrupting mprotect or madvise.
> 
> They are both relying on the way user allocates memory for RDMA. The idea
> behind Michael's propose it to let library (MPI for instance) to tell to the
> kernel that the pages are used for RDMA and it is not safe to copy them now. 
> The pages may be anywhere in the process address space bss, text, stack
> whatever.

That's a nice aim, but I don't think it can quite be done in the face of
the fork issue - one way or another, we have to change the behaviour of a
forked RDMA area slightly, which might interfere with common assumptions.

Your stack example is a good one: if we end up setting VM_DONTCOPY on
the user stack, then I don't think fork's child will get very far without
hitting a SIGSEGV.

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-10 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-19 16:55 [PATCH] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-07-25 17:19 ` [PATCH repost] PROT_DONTCOPY: ifiniband uverbs " Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-07-26 12:30   ` Hugh Dickins
2005-07-26 13:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-08-09 18:13       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-10  8:30         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-08-10  8:39         ` [openib-general] " Gleb Natapov
2005-08-10 13:22           ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2005-08-10 13:26             ` Gleb Natapov
2005-08-10 15:27               ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-11  8:02                 ` Gleb Natapov
2005-08-11 14:04                   ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-11 14:07                     ` Gleb Natapov
2005-08-11 14:17                       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-11 14:11                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-08-15 16:37                   ` Bill Jordan
2005-08-16  7:52                     ` Gleb Natapov

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