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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, michael.bishop@APPIQ.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: More info for DSM w/r/t sunffb on 2.6.15-rc6
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:07:29 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0512240828230.18398@goblin.wat.veritas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051223.234622.14020212.davem@davemloft.net>

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, David S. Miller wrote:
> From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:21:07 +0000 (GMT)
> 
> > Those "prot = __pgprot(pg_iobits);" lines - any idea why they ever
> > got inserted?  I guess to add _PAGE_E in the sparc64 case, and
> > whatever the equivalent was in the earlier sparc cases?
> > Can they safely be corrected early in 2.6.16?
> 
> Corrected?  By that you mean removed?

Removed would make the source look prettier, but I assume it's
there for a reason, and should be corrected rather than removed.

I assume the reason is to add some necessary flagbits into prot;
and not to violate the permissions model by giving shared write
access to areas mapped privately.

I was wondering your estimation of the likelihood of problems if we
change sparc and sparc64 io_remap_pfn_range to respect the distinction
between shared and private, readonly and writable, early in 2.6.16,
or early in 2.6.17.

But this incident of X trying for MAP_PRIVATE (wanting that to mean
shared) before MAP_SHARED shows we cannot assume sanity around here.
Looks like we'd need to scatter VM_SHARED tests (like yours) around
various driver mmaps at the same time, to get X back to working on them.

I knew there were several drivers ignoring vm_page_prot in their calls
to (io_)remap_pfn_range; I hadn't realized that whole architectures
were doing so in low-level functions used by many.

Or is there a good argument that the shared-write/private-readonly
distinction makes no sense on anything you might apply
io_remap_pfn_range to?  That read access to the device amounts
to write access, because of side-effects?  (I know nothing of this,
I'm just trying to guess how I might be fussing unnecessarily over it.)

> We have so many hacks
> in the tree dealing with this kind of stuff.  For example,
> pgprot_noncached() as used by things like snd_pccm_lib_mmap_iomem().

pgprot_noncached looks okay to me: not pretty, but doing just what
I'd expect, adding in some necessary flagbits while respecting the
permissions.  A hack yes (a subsequent mprotect would lose the
added flagbits I think), but good enough for most.

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-24  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-23 16:23 Michael Bishop
2005-12-23 19:19 ` David S. Miller
2005-12-23 20:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-23 23:45     ` David S. Miller
2005-12-24  1:21       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-12-24  7:46         ` David S. Miller
2005-12-24  9:07           ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2006-03-21 10:28             ` David S. Miller
2005-12-24  8:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-24  9:16         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-12-24 20:08         ` David S. Miller
     [not found] <DF925A10E7204748977502BECE3D1123015C4DCE@exch02.appiq.com>
2005-12-24  8:29 ` Linus Torvalds

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