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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	rlrevell@joe-job.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix free swap cache latency
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:55:56 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603171734500.643@goblin.wat.veritas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <441A246A.4090208@yahoo.com.au>

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >			(*zap_work)--;
> > >			continue;
> > > 		}
> > > +
> > > +		(*zap_work) -= PAGE_SIZE;
> > 
> > 
> > Sometimes we subtract 1 from zap_work, sometimes PAGE_SIZE.  It's in
> > units
> > of bytes, so PAGE_SIZE is correct.  Although it would make sense to
> > redefine it to be in units of PAGE_SIZE.  What's up with that?
> 
> Subtracting 1 if there is no work to do for that cacheline entry.
> 
> > Even better, define it in units of "approximate number of touched
> > cachelines".  After all, it is a sort-of-time-based thing.
> 
> Yeah that was the rough intention, but I never actually measured
> to see whether the results were right.
> .... 
> So it gets hard to count, especially if you have other CPUs contending
> the same locks. I suspect the per-page cost is not really 128 cache
> misses most of the time, but it was just a number I pulled out. Anyone
> can feel free to turn the knob if they feel they have a better idea.

Accounting PAGE_SIZE for a present pte or swap entry preserves the
same latency allowance as Ingo made when he introduced ZAP_BLOCK_SIZE,
so it assures us of no regression on those.

I've always felt a pte_none entry probably ought to count for more than
1 on that scale, perhaps 16.  But likewise never did any calculation or
research, nor heard of any complaints - and large stretches of pte_none
should be quite a common case, after your copy_page_range optimization.

Plus we've both regarded that code as just for the interim, while both
of us (I see today) pursue preemptible mmu_gather solutions (I'll look
at your patch and report, but not today).

Hugh

      reply	other threads:[~2006-03-17 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-16 19:11 Hugh Dickins
2006-03-16 22:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-17  1:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-17  2:52   ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-17 17:55     ` Hugh Dickins [this message]

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