From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "David M. Lloyd" <dmlloyd@flurg.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/5] signalfd v2 - signalfd core ...
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:33:35 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703081132350.7515@alien.or.mcafeemobile.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703081123210.10832@woody.linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> >
> > So, to cut it short, I can do the pseudo-siginfo read(2), but I don't
> > like it too much (little, actually). The siginfo, as bad as it is, is a
> > standard used in many POSIX APIs (hence even in kernel), and IMO if we
> > want to send that back, a struct siginfo should be.
> > No?
>
> I think it's perfectly fine if you make it "struct siginfo" (even though I
> think it's a singularly ugly struct). It's just that then you'd have to
> make your read() know whether it's a compat-read or not, which you really
> can't.
>
> Which is why you introduced a new system call, but that leads to all the
> problems with the file descriptor no longer being *usable*.
>
> Think scripts. It's easy to do reads in perl scripts, and parse the
> output. In contrast, making perl use a new system call is quite
> challenging.
>
> And *that* is why "everything is a stream of bytes" is so important. You
> don't know where the file descriptor has been, or who uses it. Special
> system calls for special file descriptors are just *wrong*.
>
> After all, that's why we'd have a signalfd() in the first place: exactly
> so that you do *not* have to use special system calls, but can just pass
> it on to any event waiting mechanism like select, poll, epoll. The same is
> just *even*more*true* when it comes to reading the data!
"Cheeseburger it is!" ;)
I'll revert back to read(2) with pseudo-siginfo and O_NONBLOCK handling...
- Davide
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-08 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-08 1:21 Davide Libenzi
2007-03-08 14:31 ` David M. Lloyd
2007-03-08 15:45 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-08 16:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-08 16:29 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-08 16:40 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-08 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-08 20:53 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-30 23:24 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-03-08 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-08 19:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-08 19:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-08 19:33 ` Davide Libenzi [this message]
2007-03-08 20:48 ` Marko Macek
2007-03-08 21:03 ` Marko Macek
2007-03-09 20:22 ` Kent Overstreet
2007-03-08 19:34 ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-08 19:40 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-08 23:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 0:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 21:33 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-08 20:43 Oleg Nesterov
2007-03-08 21:12 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-08 21:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-03-08 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-08 22:59 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-08 23:05 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-09 0:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-03-09 1:16 ` Davide Libenzi
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