From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Daniel Barkalow <barkalow@iabervon.org>
Cc: Michael Gerdau <mgerdau@tiscali.de>,
Philippe Elie <phil.el@wanadoo.fr>,
Russell Leighton <russ@elegant-software.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: OT: Does Linux have any "Perfect Code"
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:44:14 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711170941340.32153@anakin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711150940560.12193@iabervon.org>
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Daniel Barkalow wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Michael Gerdau wrote:
> > > This code is far to be perfect, some part is outdated, bcopy() use instead
> > > of memcpy() for example. More annoying are the comment, the file is 3306
> > > lines while there is only 1640 line of code, nothing bad per se but looking
> > > some comments:
> > >
> > > /*
> > > * Before we begin this operation, disable kernel preemption.
> > > */
> > > kpreempt_disable();
> >
> > <disclaimer>
> > I'm not a kernel developer.
> > </disclaimer>
> >
> > That having said:
> > I really do like such obvious (as in: for those knowing the stuff anyway)
> > comments when looking at code and probably concepts I'm not familiar with.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > I mean, isn't the whole purpose of comments to help those not familiar
> > with the code to understand it's purpose and possibly the intention of
> > the author (just in case the author had coded a bug) ?
>
> That's the problem with really obvious comments. In the example above,
> that function had better disable kernel preemption with a name like that,
> and, assuming it's before the code begins the operation in sequence, we
> know when we're doing it. But the comment fails to explain why we need to
> disable kernel preemption before beginning the operation, just that we are
> doing so. Having the comment merely distracts the reader from the fact
> that the purpose of the code and the intention of the author are
> completely undocumented. And there's a realy chance that this comment or
> ones like it cause this statement and the place in the code where things
> would go wrong if preemption weren't disabled to not fit on the reader's
> screen together, so it is not only unclear what the author's intention
> was, but it is harder to figure out from looking at the code than it would
> be without comments, because fewer clues are actually visible at the same
> time, since each of them takes up extra screen space.
>
> The code itself should be written to tell the reader everything there is
> to know about what it does, and the comments in code should only tell the
> reader why it does that.
Agreed!
At work we used to have a contractor who documented _every_ single statement
with a literal C/C++-to-English translation. Nobody liked it, except
him. It was completely unreadable.
Of course a few of these comments went out-of-sync with the actual
code...
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-17 8:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-15 1:21 Russell Leighton
2007-11-15 1:33 ` David Miller
2007-11-15 6:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-15 7:11 ` David Miller
2007-11-15 7:43 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-15 8:27 ` Philippe Elie
2007-11-15 13:16 ` Michael Gerdau
2007-11-15 15:10 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-17 8:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2007-11-15 17:05 ` Chris Friesen
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