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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] splitlru: memcg swapbacked pages active
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:51:08 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806291440030.6036@blonde.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080629213352.37D5.KOSAKI.MOTOHIRO@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> 
> Well...
> you are right.

Not proved!  This is all quite complex.  But it looks that way.

> 
> Hmm.. OK, I propse alternative way.
> 
> step1: commit this patch
> step2: implement active/inactive anon balancing routine

That sounds a good plan to me.

> 
> 	Reviewed-by: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
> 
> Thank you for good patch.

Thank you; and please accept my apology for not Cc'ing you on
the patches - I had intended to, but forgot just when sending.

> 
> btw, furtunately, memcg reclaim has some retry.
> thus, lru imbalancing doesn't cause OOM, it only cause small performance degression.
> IMHO your patch doesn't have any risk.

These things can work out so differently in practice than one would
expect.  Tests seem to be chugging along okay with the change in,
but I haven't explicitly tested performance with and without.

It just seems a sensible starting point to have the global and
memcg views in synch: if departing from that proves to work better,
then we should do so later.

I've no view yet on the performance characteristics of any of this,
just focussed on getting tmpfs working correctly again.  The notion
of keeping unevictable pages away from the regularly scanned lists
seems an obvious gain; but the swapbacked/filebacked distinction
is not so obvious to me (and particularly problematic for tmpfs).

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-29 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-29  0:20 [PATCH] splitlru: shmem_getpage SetPageSwapBacked sooner Hugh Dickins
2008-06-29  0:22 ` [PATCH] splitlru: memcg swapbacked pages active Hugh Dickins
2008-06-29  8:19   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-29 12:20     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-29 12:58       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-29 13:51         ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2008-06-30  2:44   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-30 19:19     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-30  8:36   ` [RFC][PATCH] memcg: change shmem handler KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-30 19:52     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-07-01  0:56     ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-02  2:16       ` [RFC][PATCH] memcg: shmem swap cache KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-01  1:06     ` Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH] memcg: change shmem handler kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-03  7:15     ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-03  7:56       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-29  0:24 ` [PATCH] splitlru: BDI_CAP_SWAP_BACKED Hugh Dickins
2008-06-29  8:48   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-29 15:16     ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-30  2:53     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-30 19:23       ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-30 19:49         ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-30 20:55           ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-30 21:17             ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-29  8:09 ` [PATCH] splitlru: shmem_getpage SetPageSwapBacked sooner KOSAKI Motohiro

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