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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] x86: check for and defend against BIOS memory corruption
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:23:01 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809042056270.3012@blonde.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b170af450809041242n43a6ef70s47a2e3e068619af0@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
> > 2008/8/29 Rafał Miłecki <zajec5@gmail.com>:
> > 2008/8/29 Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>:
> >> Here's my version of Jeremy's patch, that I've now tested on my machines,
> >> as x86_32 and as x86_64.  It addresses none of the points Alan Cox made,
> >> and it stays silent for me, even after suspend+resume, unless I actually
> >> introduce corruption myself.  Omits Jeremy's check in fault.c, but does
> >> a check every minute, so should soon detect Rafał's HDMI corruption
> >> without any need to suspend+resume.
> >
> > Your periodic test works fine:
> >
> > Corrupted low memory at ffff88000000be9c (be9c phys) = b02a0004
> >  <IRQ>  [<ffffffff8020fc9b>] check_for_bios_corruption+0x93/0x9f
> >  [<ffffffff8020fca7>] ? periodic_check_for_corruption+0x0/0x25
> >  [<ffffffff8020fcb0>] periodic_check_for_corruption+0x9/0x25
> >
> > By the way I confirmed this bug on Sony Vaio FW11M (my one is FW11S).
> > Probably more machines from FW11* are affected.
> 
> If this patch is known to work fine for Sony Vaio FW* and Alan's
> machine, could it go mainline somehow?

Well.

Thanks for the prod, and I'm certainly remiss for not following
up sooner.  But I'm really not at all keen on such a patch going
into mainline myself.

It's an interesting experiment, and I'd be happy to see such a patch
(adjusted to make sure output goes to kerneloops.org) spending a little
while in Fedora Rawhide (who'd be the right contact for that?).

But so far as mainline goes, I share Alan Cox's opinion that we should
not be chopping pages out of every x86 user's memory, just because a
couple of machines with faulty BIOSes have been observed.

Particularly now it's evident that the 64kB "limit" is no more than a
reflection of where the directmap pagetable changes have caught such
corruption.

If lots more such corruptions are reported, of course I would change
my position; but those bad directmap PMD crashes are themselves quite
recognizable now we know to look out for them.

I would prefer you both to use the minimal memmap= solutions for now;
but others may disagree.

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-04 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-28 19:52 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  1:49 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-08-29  3:28   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  9:25     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-29 10:13       ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-08-29 10:06         ` Alan Cox
2008-08-29 10:24         ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-29 11:54           ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-08-29 12:09             ` Alan Jenkins
2008-08-29 13:21               ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-29 16:30                 ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-08-29 17:39                 ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-09-04 19:42                   ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-09-04 20:23                     ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2008-09-04 23:04                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-06 18:09                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-29 14:08           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29 14:18       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29 20:31     ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-08-30  1:15       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  6:20 ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-08-29  6:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-29  7:21     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  7:30       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-29  8:02         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  7:22   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  8:14 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-29 14:48   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29 17:20     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 11:35     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-08 17:16       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-08 19:14         ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-08 19:45           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29 17:02   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-29 17:03   ` H. Peter Anvin

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