From: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
To: Robert Schwebel <r.schwebel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, adaplas@gmail.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4 v4] i.MX31: Image Processing Unit DMA and IRQ drivers
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:45:14 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812231327310.5188@axis700.grange> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081223121300.GL9472@pengutronix.de>
Hi Robert,
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Robert Schwebel wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:50:06AM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > > You mean an output v4l device? I think overlays are handled by framebuffer
> > > drivers... But I'm also not quite sure about it, however, handling overlay
> > > as another framebuffer seems logical to me.
> >
> > Well the DMA engine seems to suggest that frames should be passed around
> > whereas the framebuffer API only has a single frame. That would fit
> > better into the v4l API. Also the IPU can do things like colourspace
> > conversion and hw scaling which would fit into the V4L API.
>
> Looks like a candidate for gstreamer on the userspace end. Can it be
> decoupled enough to make proper plugins out of it?
I think, the question is rather "can a driver be written for IPU to
support some sane hardware-neutral image data manipulation API, like v4l?"
Then you can start writing any user-space apps on top of that API. So, as
long as there is such an API, I think, we can put it on IPU, yes. My
problems ATM is - no use-case. What concerns overlay, it is not used in
the current application, as for image format conversion from the camera -
I only have a Bayer camera to test with. I even cannot test monochrome
sanely, because of a lack of a cable:-) And Bayer and monochrome don't
make good candidates for such conversions - they are not supported by the
IPU.
> > BTW is the overlay framebuffer useful in it's current implementation?
> > There seems to be no way to adjust the x/y offset or the blending
> > modes.
>
> The API Eric Miao just posted for the PXA looks sane to me.
I'll have a look, but as I said: -ENOUSER:-)
> > > If there are no other problems with v5, could we maybe take it as a
> > > basis and then I would submit a patch to reduce the number of IRQs?
> >
> > Please understand my concerns with this driver. It's a quite complex
> > beast and experience shows that once a driver is in the kernel it is
> > far more complicated to change it than to do it right the first way.
>
> Especially when it comes to userspace visible things.
>
> > You know that I'm also interested in having a MX31 framebuffer (and
> > camera) driver in kernel but I want to make sure that it works
> > properly and leaves room for feature enhancements without having to
> > refactor the whole driver.
>
> Yup, looks like it would be better to cook it another round instead of
> trying to bring in a half-tested driver with brute-force.
Ok, no problem. Let's just decide
1. is the drivers/dma the final location.
2. do dmaengine maintainers accept it in present form or require any
amendments.
3. which interrupts we make visible by default for irq_desc[] and what
granularity we want to enable the rest (we could even just make
CONFIG_ALL_IPU_IRQS and be 95% sure noone will ever need them.)
4. throw away every trace of overlay support - if anyone ever needs it
they should be able to dig it out in ML archives.
Thanks
Guennadi
---
Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D.
Freelance Open-Source Software Developer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-23 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-18 13:26 [PATCH 0/4 v4] i.MX31: dmaengine and framebuffer drivers Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-12-18 13:26 ` [PATCH 1/4 v4] dmaengine: add async_tx_clear_ack() macro Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-12-18 13:26 ` [PATCH 2/4 v4] i.MX31: Image Processing Unit DMA and IRQ drivers Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-12-18 22:58 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-12-22 11:56 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-12-22 18:37 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-12-22 20:03 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-12-23 10:09 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2008-12-23 10:52 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-12-23 11:32 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2008-12-23 12:08 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-12-22 20:10 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-12-23 10:50 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-12-23 11:21 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-12-23 12:50 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-12-23 13:14 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-12-23 14:03 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-12-23 14:55 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-12-23 16:09 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-12-23 16:33 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-12-23 17:14 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-12-23 12:13 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-12-23 12:45 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski [this message]
2008-12-23 12:56 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-12-23 12:56 ` Valentin Longchamp
2008-12-18 13:26 ` [PATCH 3/4 v4] i.MX31: framebuffer driver Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-12-18 13:27 ` [PATCH 4/4 v4] i.MX31: platform bindings and initialisation for IPU and framebuffer drivers Guennadi Liakhovetski
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