Please, clear statement to what is next LTS linux-kernel

Please, clear statement to what is next LTS linux-kernel

[Sedat Dilek]

Happy new 2023,

I normally watch [1] for the next LTS linux-kernel which is for me an
official site and for an official announcement.

On the debian-kernel mailing list you read Linux 6.1 will be the
official one for Debian-12 aka bookworm.

I saw a phoronix article about EOL of Linux-4.9 [3] which points to [2].

[2] says:

After being prompted on the kernel mailing list, Linux stable
maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman commented:
> I usually pick the "last kernel of the year", and based on the normal release cycle, yes, 6.1 will be that kernel.
> But I can't promise anything until it is released, for obvious reasons.

This is not a clear statement for me and was maybe at a point where
6.1 was not released.

If you published a clear statement please point me to it.
And if so, please update [1] accordingly.
( It dropped 4.9 from LTS list recently from [1] - guess Konstantin or
someone from helpdesk did - so [1] is actively maintained. )

Please, a clear statement.

Thanks.

Regards,
-Sedat-

P.S.: Just for the records: I am not subscribed to LKML or
linux-stable mailing-lists and may miss such a clear statement.

[1] https://kernel.org/category/releases.html
[2] https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.1-Likely-LTS
[3] https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-4.9.337-LTS-Over
[4] https://release.debian.org/ > Key release dates

Re: Please, clear statement to what is next LTS linux-kernel

[Konstantin Ryabitsev]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:22:48PM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> ( It dropped 4.9 from LTS list recently from [1] - guess Konstantin or
> someone from helpdesk did - so [1] is actively maintained. )

Greg makes these changes himself:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/kernel/website.git/

-K

Re: Please, clear statement to what is next LTS linux-kernel

[Greg Kroah-Hartman]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:22:48PM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> Happy new 2023,
> 
> I normally watch [1] for the next LTS linux-kernel which is for me an
> official site and for an official announcement.
> 
> On the debian-kernel mailing list you read Linux 6.1 will be the
> official one for Debian-12 aka bookworm.
> 
> I saw a phoronix article about EOL of Linux-4.9 [3] which points to [2].
> 
> [2] says:
> 
> After being prompted on the kernel mailing list, Linux stable
> maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman commented:
> > I usually pick the "last kernel of the year", and based on the normal release cycle, yes, 6.1 will be that kernel.
> > But I can't promise anything until it is released, for obvious reasons.
> 
> This is not a clear statement for me and was maybe at a point where
> 6.1 was not released.
> 
> If you published a clear statement please point me to it.
> And if so, please update [1] accordingly.
> ( It dropped 4.9 from LTS list recently from [1] - guess Konstantin or
> someone from helpdesk did - so [1] is actively maintained. )
> 
> Please, a clear statement.

Why exactly do you need a "clear statement"?  What will that change (or
not change) if it is made?

Please see this previous thread for what I need from others before I can
make such a thing:
	https://lore.kernel.org/r/Y53BputYK+3djDME@kroah.com

Can you help answer those questions for your use case please?  That will
help us make our decision.

thanks,

greg k-h

Re: Please, clear statement to what is next LTS linux-kernel

[Sedat Dilek]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 6:11 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:22:48PM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> > Happy new 2023,
> >
> > I normally watch [1] for the next LTS linux-kernel which is for me an
> > official site and for an official announcement.
> >
> > On the debian-kernel mailing list you read Linux 6.1 will be the
> > official one for Debian-12 aka bookworm.
> >
> > I saw a phoronix article about EOL of Linux-4.9 [3] which points to [2].
> >
> > [2] says:
> >
> > After being prompted on the kernel mailing list, Linux stable
> > maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman commented:
> > > I usually pick the "last kernel of the year", and based on the normal release cycle, yes, 6.1 will be that kernel.
> > > But I can't promise anything until it is released, for obvious reasons.
> >
> > This is not a clear statement for me and was maybe at a point where
> > 6.1 was not released.
> >
> > If you published a clear statement please point me to it.
> > And if so, please update [1] accordingly.
> > ( It dropped 4.9 from LTS list recently from [1] - guess Konstantin or
> > someone from helpdesk did - so [1] is actively maintained. )
> >
> > Please, a clear statement.
>
> Why exactly do you need a "clear statement"?  What will that change (or
> not change) if it is made?
>
> Please see this previous thread for what I need from others before I can
> make such a thing:
>         https://lore.kernel.org/r/Y53BputYK+3djDME@kroah.com
>
> Can you help answer those questions for your use case please?  That will
> help us make our decision.
>

You made a clear statement: There was NO decision made for a new LTS kernel.
Stand: 11-Jan-2023 Linux 6.1 is NOT an LTS kernel.

Thanks.

Best regards,
-Sedat-