From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: "Hillf Danton" <hdanton@sina.com>, 马振华 <mazhenhua@xiaomi.com>,
mingo <mingo@redhat.com>, will <will@kernel.org>,
"boqun.feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG]locking/rwsem: only clean RWSEM_FLAG_HANDOFF when already set
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 22:27:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YY2Kt9pvmVA+uGmG@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fae2008b-2cca-b483-6b40-d4b95da007d3@redhat.com>
On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 03:45:30PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
>
> On 11/11/21 15:35, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 02:36:52PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> > > On 11/11/21 14:20, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 02:14:48PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> > > > > As for the PHASE_CHANGE name, we have to be consistent in both rwsem and
> > > > > mutex. Maybe a follow up patch if you think we should change the
> > > > > terminology.
> > > > Well, that's exactly the point, they do radically different things.
> > > > Having the same name for two different things is confusing.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, let me go read that patch you sent.
> > > My understanding of handoff is to disable optimistic spinning to let waiters
> > > in the wait queue have an opportunity to acquire the lock. There are
> > > difference in details on how to do that in mutex and rwsem, though.
> > Ah, but the mutex does an actual hand-off, it hands the lock to a
> > specific waiting task. That is, unlock() sets owner, as opposed to
> > trylock().
> >
> > The rwsem code doesn't, it just forces a phase change. Once a waiter has
> > been blocked too long, the handoff bit is set, causing new readers to be
> > blocked. Then we wait for existing readers to complete. At that point,
> > any next waiter (most likely a writer) should really get the lock (and
> > in that regards the rwsem code is a bit funny).
> >
> > So while both ensure fairness, the means of doing so is quite different.
> > One hands the lock ownership to a specific waiter, the other arranges
> > for a quiescent state such that the next waiter can proceed.
>
> That is a valid argument. However, the name PHASE_CHANGE sounds weird to me.
> I am not objecting to changing the term, but probably with a better name
> NO_OPTSPIN, NO_LOCKSTEALING or something like that to emphasize that fact
> that optimistic spinning or lock stealing should not be allowed.
RWSEM_FLAG_QUIESCE ?
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2021-11-07 3:25 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-07 3:28 ` Waiman Long
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2021-11-07 15:24 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-07 19:52 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-10 21:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 2:42 ` Maria Yu
2021-11-11 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 19:14 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11 19:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 19:36 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11 19:52 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11 20:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 21:01 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11 21:25 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11 21:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 21:55 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11 22:00 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11 21:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 21:46 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11 20:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 20:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 20:45 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11 21:27 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-11-11 21:54 ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11 20:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 21:09 ` Waiman Long
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