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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, "David Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Javier Martinez Canillas" <javierm@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <maxime@cerno.tech>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Sam Ravnborg" <sam@ravnborg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/6] drm/format-helper: Add drm_fb_xrgb8888_to_gray8_line()
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:26:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YgouQj5XG6lGZA8I@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220214111711.6536b4b6@eldfell>

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 11:17:11AM +0200, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 19:27:12 +0200
> Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 06:25:17PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
> > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2022, Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:  
> > > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 02:05:56PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:  
> > > >> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022, Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de> wrote:  
> > > >> > Am 11.02.22 um 12:12 schrieb Andy Shevchenko:  
> > > >> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 11:40:13AM +0100, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:  
> > > >> >>> On 2/11/22 11:28, Andy Shevchenko wrote:  
> > > >> >>>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 10:19:22AM +0100, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:  

...

> > > >> >>>>> +static void drm_fb_xrgb8888_to_gray8_line(u8 *dst, const u32 *src, unsigned int pixels)
> > > >> >>>>> +{
> > > >> >>>>> +	unsigned int x;
> > > >> >>>>> +
> > > >> >>>>> +	for (x = 0; x < pixels; x++) {
> > > >> >>>>> +		u8 r = (*src & 0x00ff0000) >> 16;
> > > >> >>>>> +		u8 g = (*src & 0x0000ff00) >> 8;
> > > >> >>>>> +		u8 b =  *src & 0x000000ff;
> > > >> >>>>> +
> > > >> >>>>> +		/* ITU BT.601: Y = 0.299 R + 0.587 G + 0.114 B */
> > > >> >>>>> +		*dst++ = (3 * r + 6 * g + b) / 10;
> > > >> >>>>> +		src++;
> > > >> >>>>> +	}  
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Can be done as
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> 	while (pixels--) {
> > > >> >>>> 		...
> > > >> >>>> 	}
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> or
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> 	do {
> > > >> >>>> 		...
> > > >> >>>> 	} while (--pixels);
> > > >> >>>>  
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> I don't see why a while loop would be an improvement here TBH.  
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> Less letters to parse when reading the code.  
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It's a simple refactoring of code that has worked well so far. Let's 
> > > >> > leave it as-is for now.  
> > > >> 
> > > >> IMO *always* prefer a for loop over while or do-while.
> > > >> 
> > > >> The for (i = 0; i < N; i++) is such a strong paradigm in C. You
> > > >> instantly know how many times you're going to loop, at a glance. Not so
> > > >> with with the alternatives, which should be used sparingly.  
> > > >
> > > > while () {}  _is_ a paradigm, for-loop is syntax sugar on top of it.  
> > > 
> > > And while() is just syntax sugar for goto. :p
> > > 
> > > The for loop written as for (i = 0; i < N; i++) is hands down the most
> > > obvious counting loop pattern there is in C.
> > >   
> > > >> And yes, the do-while suggested above is buggy, and you actually need to
> > > >> stop and think to see why.  
> > > >
> > > > It depends if pixels can be 0 or not and if it's not, then does it contain last
> > > > or number.
> > > >
> > > > The do {} while (--pixels); might be buggy iff pixels may be 0.  
> > > 
> > > Yeah. And how long does it take to figure that out?  
> > 
> > Okay, I made a mistake to drop the explanation. So, I (mistakenly) assumed
> > that people know this difference between post-decrement and pre-decrement
> > (note, while-loop here is not what is problematic).
> 
> That was not the question.
> 
> The question was, how long does it take to figure out if pixels can or
> cannot be zero?

To me these patterns, while() {} and do {} while(), while being shorter,
also give a hint. So if one is familiar with C, the do {} while (--foo)
_gives a hint_ while being shorter. It requires _less_ brain power to get
this.

But I assume my brain is unique and not working as million of others.

> Code is styled for humans other than the author, not for compilers.
> 
> Having to stop to think about the difference between post- and
> pre-decrement to figure out when the while-loop runs does take me a few
> more brain cycles to understand, even though I know the rules very well.
> 
> I would call that brain cycle optimization, and leave the CPU cycle
> optimization for the compiler in these cases.



-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-14 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-11  9:19 [PATCH v4 0/6] drm: Add driver for Solomon SSD130x OLED displays Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11  9:19 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] drm/format-helper: Add drm_fb_xrgb8888_to_gray8_line() Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11  9:29   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-11 10:28   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-11 10:40     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11 11:12       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-11 11:54         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-11 12:05           ` Jani Nikula
2022-02-11 12:11             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11 12:27             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-11 15:41             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-11 16:25               ` Jani Nikula
2022-02-11 17:27                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-14  9:17                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-14 10:26                     ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2022-02-14  9:03               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-14 10:38                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-14 10:52                   ` Simon Ser
2022-02-14 10:57                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-14 12:12                   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-14 12:47                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-02-14 12:54                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-14 13:07                         ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-02-14 13:59                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-11  9:19 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] drm/format-helper: Add drm_fb_xrgb8888_to_mono_reversed() Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11 11:10   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-11 11:50     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11 15:55       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-11 11:59     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-11 12:46   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-11  9:19 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] drm: Add driver for Solomon SSD130x OLED displays Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11 11:33   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-11 12:05     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11 12:23       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-11 12:27         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11 15:49       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-11 12:44   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-11  9:19 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] drm/solomon: Add SSD130x OLED displays I2C support Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11 11:16   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-11  9:21 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for Solomon SSD130x OLED displays DRM driver Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11 11:34   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-11  9:22 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] dt-bindings: display: ssd1307fb: Add myself as binding co-maintainer Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-11 11:35   ` Andy Shevchenko

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