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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH random v2] x86/rdrand: Remove "nordrand" flag in favor of "random.trust_cpu"
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2022 13:30:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yslm7D9E7nXAsPWk@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220709104306.1094431-1-Jason@zx2c4.com>

On Sat, Jul 09, 2022 at 12:43:06PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> The decision of whether or not to trust RDRAND is controlled by the
> "random.trust_cpu" boot time parameter or the CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_CPU
> compile time default. The "nordrand" flag was added during the early
> days of RDRAND, when there were worries that merely using its values
> could compromise the RNG. However, these days, RDRAND values are not
> used directly but always go through the RNG's hash function, making
> "nordrand" no longer useful.
> 
> Rather, the correct switch is "random.trust_cpu", which not only handles
> the relevant trust issue directly, but also is general to multiple CPU
> types, not just x86.
> 
> However, x86 RDRAND does have a history of being occasionally
> problematic. Prior, when the kernel would notice something strange, it'd
> warn in dmesg and suggest enabling "nordrand". We can improve on that by
> making the test a little bit better and then taking the step of
> automatically disabling RDRAND if we detect it's problematic.
> 
> Also extend the basic sanity test to RDSEED in addition to RDRAND, and
> disable both if either one fails.
> 
> Cc: x86@kernel.org
> Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
> Suggested-by: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>
> Suggested-by: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
> Signed-off-by: Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com>
> ---
> This is a tip-ish commit, but it relies on the CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM commit
> in the random tree, so I'll take this through the random tree to avoid
> conflicts.

Acked-by: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

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GF: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Martje Boudien Moerman
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-09 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-07  0:00 [PATCH] random: remove " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-07  0:12 ` Randy Dunlap
2022-07-07  0:14   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-09 10:43     ` [PATCH random v2] x86/rdrand: Remove " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-09 11:30       ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2022-07-17 11:38       ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld

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