From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] SEPT SEAMCALL retry proposal
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 14:24:49 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0VpsYpcz4uqdA7o@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a3b3b6bc96e111e5380de4681a20c2734d82a33.camel@intel.com>
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 08:46:51AM +0800, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> On Thu, 2024-11-21 at 19:51 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > ==proposal details==
> >
> > The proposal discusses SEPT-related and TLB-flush-related SEAMCALLs
> > together which are required for page installation and uninstallation.
> >
> > These SEAMCALLs can be divided into three groups:
> > Group 1: tdh_mem_page_add().
> > The SEAMCALL is invoked only during TD build time and therefore
> > KVM has ensured that no contention will occur.
> >
> > Proposal: (as in patch 1)
> > Just return error when TDX_OPERAND_BUSY is found.
> >
> > Group 2: tdh_mem_sept_add(), tdh_mem_page_aug().
> > These two SEAMCALLs are invoked for page installation.
> > They return TDX_OPERAND_BUSY when contending with tdh_vp_enter()
> > (due to 0-step mitigation) or TDCALLs tdg_mem_page_accept(),
> > tdg_mem_page_attr_rd/wr().
>
> We did verify with TDX module folks that the TDX module could be changed to not
> take the sept host priority lock for zero entries (that happen during the guest
> operations). In that case, I think we shouldn't expect contention for
> tdh_mem_sept_add() and tdh_mem_page_aug() from them? We still need it for
> tdh_vp_enter() though.
Ah, you are right.
I previously incorrectly thought TDX module will avoid locking free entries for
tdg_mem_page_accept() only.
>
>
> >
> > Proposal: (as in patch 1)
> > - Return -EBUSY in KVM for TDX_OPERAND_BUSY to cause RET_PF_RETRY
> > to be returned in kvm_mmu_do_page_fault()/kvm_mmu_page_fault().
> >
> > - Inside TDX's EPT violation handler, retry on RET_PF_RETRY as
> > long as there are no pending signals/interrupts.
> >
> > The retry inside TDX aims to reduce the count of tdh_vp_enter()
> > before resolving EPT violations in the local vCPU, thereby
> > minimizing contentions with other vCPUs. However, it can't
> > completely eliminate 0-step mitigation as it exits when there're
> > pending signals/interrupts and does not (and cannot) remove the
> > tdh_vp_enter() caused by KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT.
> >
> > Resources SHARED users EXCLUSIVE users
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > SEPT tree tdh_mem_sept_add tdh_vp_enter(0-step mitigation)
> > tdh_mem_page_aug
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > SEPT entry tdh_mem_sept_add (Host lock)
> > tdh_mem_page_aug (Host lock)
> > tdg_mem_page_accept (Guest lock)
> > tdg_mem_page_attr_rd (Guest lock)
> > tdg_mem_page_attr_wr (Guest lock)
> >
> > Group 3: tdh_mem_range_block(), tdh_mem_track(), tdh_mem_page_remove().
> > These three SEAMCALLs are invoked for page uninstallation, with
> > KVM mmu_lock held for writing.
> >
> > Resources SHARED users EXCLUSIVE users
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > TDCS epoch tdh_vp_enter tdh_mem_track
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > SEPT tree tdh_mem_page_remove tdh_vp_enter (0-step mitigation)
> > tdh_mem_range_block
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > SEPT entry tdh_mem_range_block (Host lock)
> > tdh_mem_page_remove (Host lock)
> > tdg_mem_page_accept (Guest lock)
> > tdg_mem_page_attr_rd (Guest lock)
> > tdg_mem_page_attr_wr (Guest lock)
> >
> > Proposal: (as in patch 2)
> > - Upon detection of TDX_OPERAND_BUSY, retry each SEAMCALL only
> > once.
> > - During the retry, kick off all vCPUs and prevent any vCPU from
> > entering to avoid potential contentions.
> >
> > This is because tdh_vp_enter() and TDCALLs are not protected by
> > KVM mmu_lock, and remove_external_spte() in KVM must not fail.
>
> The solution for group 3 actually doesn't look too bad at all to me. At least
> from code and complexity wise. It's pretty compact, doesn't add any locks, and
> limited to the tdx.c code. Although, I didn't evaluate the implementation
> correctness of tdx_no_vcpus_enter_start() and tdx_no_vcpus_enter_stop() yet.
>
> Were you able to test the fallback path at all? Can we think of any real
> situations where it could be burdensome?
Yes, I did some negative tests to fail block/track/remove to check if the
tdx_no_vcpus_enter*() work.
Even without those negative tests, it's not rare for tdh_mem_track() to return
busy due to its contention with tdh_vp_enter().
Given that normally it's not frequent to find tdh_mem_range_block() or
tdh_mem_page_remove() to return busy (if we reduce the frequency of zero-step
mitigation) and that tdh_mem_track() will kick off all vCPUs later any way, I
think it's acceptable to do the tdx_no_vcpus_enter*() stuffs in the page removal
path.
> One other thing to note I think, is that group 3 are part of no-fail operations.
> The core KVM calling code doesn't have the understanding of a failure there. So
> in this scheme of not avoiding contention we have to succeed before returning,
> where group 1 and 2 can fail, so don't need the special fallback scheme.
Yes, exactly.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-26 6:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-12 7:33 [PATCH v2 00/24] TDX MMU Part 2 Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:34 ` [PATCH v2 01/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Implement memslot deletion for TDX Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:34 ` [PATCH v2 02/24] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add a helper function to walk down the TDP MMU Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:35 ` [PATCH v2 03/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Do not enable page track for TD guest Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:35 ` [PATCH v2 04/24] KVM: VMX: Split out guts of EPT violation to common/exposed function Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:35 ` [PATCH v2 05/24] KVM: VMX: Teach EPT violation helper about private mem Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:35 ` [PATCH v2 06/24] KVM: TDX: Add accessors VMX VMCS helpers Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:36 ` [PATCH v2 07/24] KVM: TDX: Add load_mmu_pgd method for TDX Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:36 ` [PATCH v2 08/24] KVM: TDX: Set gfn_direct_bits to shared bit Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:36 ` [PATCH v2 09/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_sept_add() to add SEPT pages Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:36 ` [PATCH v2 10/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers to add TD private pages Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:36 ` [PATCH v2 11/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers to manage TDX TLB tracking Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:36 ` [PATCH v2 12/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers to remove a TD private page Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:37 ` [PATCH v2 13/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for TD measurement of initial contents Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:37 ` [PATCH v2 14/24] KVM: TDX: Require TDP MMU and mmio caching for TDX Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:37 ` [PATCH v2 15/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Add setter for shadow_mmio_value Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:37 ` [PATCH v2 16/24] KVM: TDX: Set per-VM shadow_mmio_value to 0 Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:37 ` [PATCH v2 17/24] KVM: TDX: Handle TLB tracking for TDX Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 18/24] KVM: TDX: Implement hooks to propagate changes of TDP MMU mirror page table Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 19/24] KVM: TDX: Implement hook to get max mapping level of private pages Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 20/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Export kvm_tdp_map_page() Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 21/24] KVM: TDX: Add an ioctl to create initial guest memory Yan Zhao
2024-11-27 18:08 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-11-28 2:20 ` Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 22/24] KVM: TDX: Finalize VM initialization Yan Zhao
2024-12-24 14:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-01-07 7:44 ` Yan Zhao
2025-01-07 14:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-01-08 2:18 ` Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 23/24] KVM: TDX: Handle vCPU dissociation Yan Zhao
2024-11-12 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 24/24] [HACK] KVM: TDX: Retry seamcall when TDX_OPERAND_BUSY with operand SEPT Yan Zhao
2024-11-21 11:51 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] SEPT SEAMCALL retry proposal Yan Zhao
2024-11-21 11:56 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: TDX: Retry in TDX when installing TD private/sept pages Yan Zhao
2024-11-21 11:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] KVM: TDX: Kick off vCPUs when SEAMCALL is busy during TD page removal Yan Zhao
2024-11-26 0:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-26 6:39 ` Yan Zhao
2024-12-17 23:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 5:45 ` Yan Zhao
2024-12-18 16:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-19 1:52 ` Yan Zhao
2024-12-19 2:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-19 3:03 ` Yan Zhao
2024-11-26 0:46 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] SEPT SEAMCALL retry proposal Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-26 6:24 ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2024-12-13 1:01 ` Yan Zhao
2024-12-17 17:00 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-17 23:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-10 18:21 ` [PATCH v2 00/24] TDX MMU Part 2 Paolo Bonzini
2024-12-24 14:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
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