From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v1 07/18] printk: nobkl: Add buffer management
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 16:25:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZBxvXDl34qdKnJ6o@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y1nna8po.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
On Thu 2023-03-23 14:44:43, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2023-03-21, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> > The per-CPU buffer actually looks dangerous. It might
> > be used by more NOBKL consoles. How is the access synchronized
> > please? By console_list_lock? It is not obvious to me.
>
> Each console has its own set of per-CPU buffers (con->pcpu_data).
>
> > On the contrary, we might need 4 static buffers for the early
> > boot. For example, one atomic console might start printing
> > in the normal context. Second atomic console might use
> > the same static buffer in IRQ context. But the first console
> > will not realize it because it did not loose the per-CPU
> > atomic lock when the CPU handled the interrupt..
> > Or is this handled another way, please?
>
> You are correct! Although I think 3 initdata static buffers should
> suffice. (2 if the system does not support NMI).
I am never completely sure about it. My undestanding is that softirq
might be proceed at the end if irq_exit():
+ irq_exit()
+ __irq_exit_rcu()
+ invoke_softirq()
+ __do_softirq()
And I see local_irq_enable() in __do_softirq() before softirq actions
are proceed. It means that there might be 4 nested contexts:
+ task
+ softirq
+ irq
+ NMI
So we need 4 buffers (3 if the system does not support NMI).
> Your feedback points out that we are allocating a lot of extra memory
> for the rare case of a hostile takeover from another CPU when in
> panic. I suppose it would be enough to have a single dedicated panic
> buffer to use in this case.
Yup.
> With all that in mind, we would have 3 initdata early buffers, a single
> panic buffer, and per-console buffers. So the function would look
> something like this:
>
> static __ref void cons_context_set_pbufs(struct cons_context *ctxt)
> {
> struct console *con = ctxt->console;
>
> if (atomic_read(&panic_cpu) == smp_processor_id())
> ctxt->pbufs = &panic_ctxt_data.pbufs;
> else if (con->pbufs)
> ctxt->pbufs = con->pbufs;
> else
> ctxt->pbufs = &early_cons_ctxt_data[early_nbcon_nested].pbufs;
> }
Looks good.
> It should be enough to increment @early_nbcon_nested in cons_get_wctxt()
> and decrement it in a new cons_put_wctxt() that is called after
> cons_atomic_flush_con().
I still have to understand the logic related to
cons_atomic_flush_con() and early boot.
> Originally in tglx's design, hostile takeovers were allowed at any time,
> which requires the per-CPU data per console. His idea was that the
> policy about hostile takeovers should be implemented outside the nbcons
> framework. However, with this newly proposed change in order to avoid
> per-CPU buffers for every console, we are adding an implicit rule that
> hostile takeovers only occur at panic. Maybe it is ok to hard-code this
> particular policy. It would certainly save significant buffer space and
> I not sure if hostile takeovers make sense outside of a panic context.
I am not sure about the hostile takeovers as well. But they might be
potentially dangerous so I would allow them only in panic for a start.
And I would avoid the per-CPU buffers if we do not need them now.
We could always make it more complicated...
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-23 15:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-02 19:56 [PATCH printk v1 00/18] threaded/atomic console support John Ogness
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 01/18] kdb: do not assume write() callback available John Ogness
2023-03-07 14:57 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-07 16:34 ` Doug Anderson
2023-03-09 10:52 ` Daniel Thompson
2023-03-09 11:26 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-09 11:30 ` Daniel Thompson
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 02/18] printk: Add NMI check to down_trylock_console_sem() John Ogness
2023-03-07 16:05 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 11:37 ` John Ogness
2023-04-13 13:42 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 03/18] printk: Consolidate console deferred printing John Ogness
2023-03-08 13:15 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 13:05 ` John Ogness
2023-04-13 15:15 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 04/18] printk: Add per-console suspended state John Ogness
2023-03-08 14:40 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 13:22 ` John Ogness
2023-04-14 9:56 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 05/18] printk: Add non-BKL console basic infrastructure John Ogness
2023-03-09 14:08 ` global states: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 13:29 ` John Ogness
2023-03-09 15:32 ` naming: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 13:39 ` John Ogness
2023-03-21 16:04 ` union: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-27 16:28 ` John Ogness
2023-03-28 8:20 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-28 9:42 ` John Ogness
2023-03-28 12:52 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-28 13:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 06/18] printk: nobkl: Add acquire/release logic John Ogness
2023-03-06 9:07 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-03-06 9:39 ` John Ogness
2023-03-13 16:07 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 14:56 ` John Ogness
2023-03-20 16:10 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 17:34 ` simplify: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-21 15:36 ` Petr Mladek
2023-04-02 18:39 ` John Ogness
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 07/18] printk: nobkl: Add buffer management John Ogness
2023-03-21 16:38 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-23 13:38 ` John Ogness
2023-03-23 15:25 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 08/18] printk: nobkl: Add sequence handling John Ogness
2023-03-27 15:45 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 09/18] printk: nobkl: Add print state functions John Ogness
2023-03-29 13:58 ` buffer write race: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-29 14:33 ` John Ogness
2023-03-30 11:54 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-29 14:05 ` misc details: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 10/18] printk: nobkl: Add emit function and callback functions for atomic printing John Ogness
2023-03-03 0:19 ` kernel test robot
2023-03-03 10:55 ` John Ogness
2023-03-31 10:29 ` dropped handling: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-31 10:36 ` semantic: " Petr Mladek
[not found] ` <87edp29kvq.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
[not found] ` <ZCraqrkqFtsfLWuP@alley>
[not found] ` <87ilecsrvl.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
2023-04-04 14:09 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 11/18] printk: nobkl: Introduce printer threads John Ogness
2023-03-03 1:23 ` kernel test robot
2023-03-03 10:56 ` John Ogness
2023-04-05 10:48 ` boot console: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-04-06 8:09 ` wakeup synchronization: " Petr Mladek
2023-04-06 9:46 ` port lock: " Petr Mladek
2023-04-20 9:55 ` Petr Mladek
2023-04-20 10:33 ` John Ogness
2023-04-20 13:33 ` Petr Mladek
2023-04-21 16:15 ` Petr Mladek
2023-04-06 13:19 ` misc: " Petr Mladek
2023-04-13 13:28 ` (k)thread: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 12/18] printk: nobkl: Add printer thread wakeups John Ogness
2023-04-12 9:38 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 13/18] printk: nobkl: Add write context storage for atomic writes John Ogness
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 14/18] printk: nobkl: Provide functions for atomic write enforcement John Ogness
2023-04-12 14:53 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 15/18] printk: nobkl: Stop threads on shutdown/reboot John Ogness
2023-04-13 9:03 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 16/18] kernel/panic: Add atomic write enforcement to warn/panic John Ogness
2023-04-13 10:08 ` Petr Mladek
2023-04-13 12:13 ` John Ogness
2023-04-14 10:10 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 17/18] rcu: Add atomic write enforcement for rcu stalls John Ogness
2023-04-13 12:10 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 18/18] printk: Perform atomic flush in console_flush_on_panic() John Ogness
2023-04-13 12:20 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:58 ` [PATCH printk v1 00/18] serial: 8250: implement non-BKL console John Ogness
2023-03-28 13:33 ` locking API: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-28 13:57 ` John Ogness
2023-03-28 15:10 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-28 21:47 ` John Ogness
2023-03-29 8:03 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-28 13:59 ` [PATCH printk v1 00/18] POC: serial: 8250: implement nbcon console John Ogness
2023-03-09 10:55 ` [PATCH printk v1 00/18] threaded/atomic console support Daniel Thompson
2023-03-09 11:14 ` John Ogness
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