From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
x86@kernel.org, Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@linux.intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Arjan van de Veen <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/6] Cure kexec() vs. mwait_play_dead() troubles
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 10:41:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZH4eNL4Bf7yPItee@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230603193439.502645149@linutronix.de>
On Sat, Jun 03, 2023, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Ashok observed triple faults when executing kexec() on a kernel which has
> 'nosmt' on the kernel commandline and HT enabled in the BIOS.
>
> 'nosmt' brings up the HT siblings to the point where they initiliazed the
> CPU and then rolls the bringup back which parks them in mwait_play_dead().
> The reason is that all CPUs should have CR4.MCE set. Otherwise a broadcast
> MCE will immediately shut down the machine.
...
> This is only half safe because HLT can resume execution due to NMI, SMI and
> MCE. Unfortunately there is no real safe mechanism to "park" a CPU reliably,
On Intel. On AMD, enabling EFER.SVME and doing CLGI will block everything except
single-step #DB (lol) and RESET. #MC handling is implementation-dependent and
*might* cause shutdown, but at least there's a chance it will work. And presumably
modern CPUs do pend the #MC until GIF=1.
> but there is at least one which prevents the NMI and SMI cause: INIT.
>
> 3) If the system uses the regular INIT/STARTUP sequence to wake up
> secondary CPUS, then "park" all CPUs including the "offline" ones
> by sending them INIT IPIs.
>
> The INIT IPI brings the CPU into a wait for wakeup state which is not
> affected by NMI and SMI, but INIT also clears CR4.MCE, so the broadcast MCE
> problem comes back.
>
> But that's not really any different from a CPU sitting in the HLT loop on
> the previous kernel. If a broadcast MCE arrives, HLT resumes execution and
> the CPU tries to handle the MCE on overwritten text, pagetables etc.
>
> So parking them via INIT is not completely solving the problem, but it
> takes at least NMI and SMI out of the picture.
Don't most SMM handlers rendezvous all CPUs? I.e. won't blocking SMIs indefinitely
potentially cause problems too?
Why not carve out a page that's hidden across kexec() to hold whatever code+data
is needed to safely execute a HLT loop indefinitely? E.g. doesn't the original
kernel provide the e820 tables for the post-kexec() kernel? To avoid OOM after
many kexec(), reserving a page could be done iff the current kernel wasn't itself
kexec()'d.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-05 17:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-03 20:06 Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:06 ` [patch 1/6] x86/smp: Remove pointless wmb() from native_stop_other_cpus() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:06 ` [patch 2/6] x86/smp: Acquire stopping_cpu unconditionally Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:07 ` [patch 3/6] x86/smp: Use dedicated cache-line for mwait_play_dead() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:07 ` [patch 4/6] x86/smp: Cure kexec() vs. mwait_play_dead() breakage Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:54 ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-04 3:19 ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-05 7:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:07 ` [patch 5/6] x86/smp: Split sending INIT IPI out into a helper function Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-04 4:02 ` Mika Penttilä
2023-06-04 10:24 ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-05 7:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 8:23 ` [patch v2 " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:07 ` [patch 6/6] x86/smp: Put CPUs into INIT on shutdown if possible Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:57 ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-05 17:41 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-06-05 22:41 ` [patch 0/6] Cure kexec() vs. mwait_play_dead() troubles Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 23:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-06 7:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-07 16:21 ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-07 17:33 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-07 22:19 ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-08 3:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-08 4:03 ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-16 15:07 ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-16 19:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-16 19:03 ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-16 19:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-09 8:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
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