From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Robert Hoo <robert.hoo.linux@gmail.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] KVM: x86: Keep a per-VM MTRR state
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 09:19:13 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZHVPEWOWSyaIWteA@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZHDZpHYQhPtkNnQe@google.com>
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 09:09:08AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Fri, May 26, 2023, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 07:53:41AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > > > > So, if KVM zaps SPTEs when CR0.CD is cleared (even when the quirk is enabled),
> > > > > > > then KVM can skip the MTRR zaps when CR0.CD=1 because KVM is ignoring the MTRRs
> > > > > > > and will zap when CR0.CD is cleared. And to avoid regressing the CR0.CD case,
> > > > > > > if KVM honors guest PAT for the bizarro CR0.CD quirk, then KVM only needs to
> > > > > > > zap non-WB MTRR ranges when CR0.CD is cleared. Since WB is weak, looking for
> > > > Not only non-WB ranges are required to be zapped.
> > > > Think about a scenario:
> > > > (1) one fixed MTRR range is UC initially. Its EPT entry memtype is UC, too.
> > > > (2) after CR0.CD=1, without zap, its EPT entry memtype is still UC.
> > > > (3) then guest performs MTRR disable, no zap too.
> > > > (4) guest updates this fixed MTRR range to WB, and performs MTRR enable.
> > > > (5) CR0.CD=0. we need to zap this fixed range to update the EPT memtype to WB.
> > >
> > > KVM installs WB memtype when the quirk is enabled, thus no need to zap. KVM
> > > currently zaps everything when the quirk is disabled, and I'm not proposing that
> > > be changed.
> > I didn't explain it clearly.
> >
> > (1) one fixed MTRR range is UC initially. Its EPT entry memtype is UC, too. ==> EPT entry has been created here
> > (2) after CR0.CD=1, because of the quirk, no zap, the created EPT entry memtype is still UC.
> > (3) then guest performs MTRR disable, no zap too, according to our change.
> > (4) guest updates this fixed MTRR range to WB, and performs MTRR enable.
> > (5) CR0.CD=0. we need to zap this fixed range to update the EPT memtype to WB.==>we also need to zap WB range.
>
> Ugh, right. But that case can be handled by zapping non-WB ranges on CR0.CD being
> set. Hmm, and KVM would need to zap everything if CR0.CD is toggled with MTRRs
Ok. Actually even with below "zap everything always", I didn't observe any performance
downgrade on OVMF in my side regarding to this change as we skipped EPT zap in
update_mtrr() when CR0.CD=1.
(even 3 less zaps for vCPU 0 and 1 less zap for APs as initially there are several MTRRs
disabled when CR0.CD=1 without accompanying CR0.CD toggle).
diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
index dadf80fb85e9..ad3c4dc9d7bf 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
@@ -941,9 +941,9 @@ void kvm_post_set_cr0(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, unsigned long old_cr0, unsigned lon
if (((cr0 ^ old_cr0) & X86_CR0_CD) &&
- kvm_mmu_honors_guest_mtrr(vcpu->kvm) &&
- !kvm_check_has_quirk(vcpu->kvm, KVM_X86_QUIRK_CD_NW_CLEARED)
+ kvm_mmu_honors_guest_mtrr(vcpu->kvm)
kvm_zap_gfn_range(vcpu->kvm, 0, ~0ULL);
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(kvm_post_set_cr0);
> disabled, but I don't think OVMF ever does that. Zapping on CR0.CD toggling would
> would likely introduce a small performance hit for SeaBIOS due to SeaBIOS clearing
> CR0.CD immediately after SIPI, i.e. with MTRRs disabled, but that's arguably a
For SeaBIOS, I also observed 1 less of EPT zap for each vCPU, because
there are 3 more MTRR toggles than CR0.CD toggles for each vCPU, and only 2 MTRR
toggles happen when CR0.CD=0.
> correctness fix since the quirk means KVM incorrectly runs the vCPU with WB SPTEs
> until MTRRs are programmed.
> With precise+batched zapping, zapping non-WB ranges even when CR0.CD is set should
> still be a healthy performance boost for OVMF.
Ok. I'll try to implement in this way in the next version.
> > (2) return MTRR_TYPE_WRBACK if guest mtrr has not been enabled for once
> > u8 kvm_mtrr_get_guest_memory_type(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, gfn_t gfn)
> > @@ -628,13 +635,23 @@ u8 kvm_mtrr_get_guest_memory_type(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, gfn_t gfn)
> > struct mtrr_iter iter;
> > u64 start, end;
> > int type = -1;
> > const int wt_wb_mask = (1 << MTRR_TYPE_WRBACK)
> > | (1 << MTRR_TYPE_WRTHROUGH);
> >
> > + if (!mtrr_state->enabled_once)
> > + return MTRR_TYPE_WRBACK;
>
> No, because this assumes too many things about the guest, and completely falls
> apart if the guest reboots.
Ah, right.
> I am not willing to lean on the historical commit messages for the quirk to
> justify any change. I'm not at all convinced that there was any meaningful thought
> put into ensuring correctness.
>
> > we can return MTRR_TYPE_WRBACK for CR0.CD=1 only when MTRR is not enbled for
> > once. (And I tried, it works!)
>
> On your system, for your setup. The quirk terrifies me because it likely affects
> every KVM-based VM out there (I can't find a single VMM that disables the quirk).
> These changes are limited to VMs with noncoherent DMA, but still.
>
> In short, I am steadfastly against any change that piles more arbitrary behavior
> functional behavior on top of the quirk, especially when that behavior relies on
> heuristics to try and guess what the guest is doing.
Ok, yes, this is the right insistence.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-30 1:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-09 13:48 [PATCH v2 0/6] KVM: x86/mmu: refine memtype related mmu zap Yan Zhao
2023-05-09 13:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] KVM: x86/mmu: add a new mmu zap helper to indicate memtype changes Yan Zhao
2023-05-10 5:30 ` Chao Gao
2023-05-10 8:06 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-23 22:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-24 2:22 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-24 14:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-25 10:14 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-25 15:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-30 1:32 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-30 9:48 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-30 23:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-31 0:18 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-09 13:51 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] KVM: x86/mmu: only zap EPT when guest CR0_CD changes Yan Zhao
2023-05-09 13:51 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] KVM: x86/mmu: only zap EPT when guest MTRR changes Yan Zhao
2023-05-10 5:39 ` Chao Gao
2023-05-10 8:00 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-10 10:54 ` Huang, Kai
2023-05-11 0:15 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-11 2:42 ` Huang, Kai
2023-05-11 2:31 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-11 3:05 ` Huang, Kai
2023-05-09 13:52 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Zap all EPT leaf entries according noncoherent DMA count Yan Zhao
2023-05-09 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] KVM: x86: Keep a per-VM MTRR state Yan Zhao
2023-05-10 17:23 ` David Matlack
2023-05-21 3:44 ` Robert Hoo
2023-05-23 6:21 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-24 0:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-24 11:03 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-24 18:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-25 10:09 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-25 14:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-26 7:54 ` Yan Zhao
2023-05-26 16:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-30 1:19 ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2023-05-25 7:21 ` Robert Hoo
2023-05-25 15:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-26 1:49 ` Robert Hoo
2023-05-09 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] KVM: x86/mmu: use per-VM based MTRR for EPT Yan Zhao
2023-05-24 0:15 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] KVM: x86/mmu: refine memtype related mmu zap Sean Christopherson
2023-05-24 11:04 ` Yan Zhao
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=ZHVPEWOWSyaIWteA@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com \
--to=yan.y.zhao@intel.com \
--cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
--cc=robert.hoo.linux@gmail.com \
--cc=seanjc@google.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
Powered by JetHome