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From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
Cc: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	<seanjc@google.com>, <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	<robert.hoo.linux@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/11] KVM: VMX: drop IPAT in memtype when CD=1 for KVM_X86_QUIRK_CD_NW_CLEARED
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:08:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJjW9Kstbfa+LmAV@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45be3429-f352-920a-d1af-7f3a07930f5d@intel.com>

On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 03:14:37PM +0800, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> On 6/20/2023 10:34 AM, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:42:57AM +0800, Chao Gao wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 10:38:15AM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > > For KVM_X86_QUIRK_CD_NW_CLEARED, remove the ignore PAT bit in EPT memory
> > > > types when cache is disabled and non-coherent DMA are present.
> > > > 
> > > > With the quirk KVM_X86_QUIRK_CD_NW_CLEARED, WB + IPAT are returned as the
> > > > EPT memory type when guest cache is disabled before this patch.
> > > > Removing the IPAT bit in this patch will allow effective memory type to
> > > > honor PAT values as well, which will make the effective memory type
> > > Given guest sets CR0.CD, what's the point of honoring (guest) PAT? e.g.,
> > > which guests can benefit from this change?
> > This patch is actually a preparation for later patch 10 to implement
> > fine-grained zap.
> > If when CR0.CD=1 the EPT type is WB + IPAT, and
> > when CR0.CD=0 + mtrr enabled, EPT type is WB or UC or ..., which are
> > without IPAT, then we have to always zap all EPT entries.
> > 
> > Given removing the IPAT bit when CR0.CD=1 only makes the quirk
> > KVM_X86_QUIRK_CD_NW_CLEARED more strict (meaning it could be WC/UC... if
> > the guest PAT overwrites it), it's still acceptable.
> 
> Per my understanding, the reason why KVM had KVM_X86_QUIRK_CD_NW_CLEARED is
> to ensure the memory type is WB to achieve better boot performance for old
> OVMF.
It works well for OVMF c9e5618f84b0cb54a9ac2d7604f7b7e7859b45a7,
which is Apr 14 2015.


> you need to justify the original purpose is not broken by this patch.

Hmm, to dig into the history, the reason for this quirk is explained below:

commit fb279950ba02e3210a16b11ecfa8871f3ee0ca49
Author: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@intel.com>
Date:   Thu Jul 16 03:25:56 2015 +0800

    KVM: vmx: obey KVM_QUIRK_CD_NW_CLEARED

    OVMF depends on WB to boot fast, because it only clears caches after
    it has set up MTRRs---which is too late.

    Let's do writeback if CR0.CD is set to make it happy, similar to what
    SVM is already doing.


which means WB is only a must for fast boot before OVMF has set up MTRRs.
At that period, PAT is default to WB.

After OVMF setting up MTRR, according to the definition of no-fill cache
mode, "Strict memory ordering is not enforced unless the MTRRs are
disabled and/or all memory is referenced as uncached", it's valid to
honor PAT in no-fill cache mode.
Besides, if the guest explicitly claim UC via PAT, why should KVM return
WB?
In other words, if it's still slow caused by a UC value in guest PAT,
it's desired to be fixed in guest instead of a workaround in KVM.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-26  0:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-16  2:31 [PATCH v3 00/11] KVM: x86/mmu: refine memtype related mmu zap Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  2:32 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] KVM: x86/mmu: helpers to return if KVM honors guest MTRRs Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  2:34 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] KVM: x86/mmu: Use KVM honors guest MTRRs helper in kvm_tdp_page_fault() Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  2:35 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] KVM: x86/mmu: Use KVM honors guest MTRRs helper when CR0.CD toggles Yan Zhao
2023-06-28 21:59   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-29  1:42     ` Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  2:36 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] KVM: x86/mmu: Use KVM honors guest MTRRs helper when update mtrr Yan Zhao
2023-06-28 22:08   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-16  2:37 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] KVM: x86/mmu: zap KVM TDP when noncoherent DMA assignment starts/stops Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  2:37 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] KVM: x86/mmu: move TDP zaps from guest MTRRs update to CR0.CD toggling Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  2:38 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] KVM: VMX: drop IPAT in memtype when CD=1 for KVM_X86_QUIRK_CD_NW_CLEARED Yan Zhao
2023-06-20  2:42   ` Chao Gao
2023-06-20  2:34     ` Yan Zhao
2023-06-20  3:34       ` Chao Gao
2023-06-20  3:19         ` Yan Zhao
2023-06-25  7:14       ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-06-26  0:08         ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2023-06-26  3:40           ` Yuan Yao
2023-06-26  3:38             ` Yan Zhao
2023-06-20  3:17     ` Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  2:38 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] KVM: x86: move vmx code to get EPT memtype when CR0.CD=1 to x86 common code Yan Zhao
2023-06-28 22:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-29  0:55     ` Yan Zhao
2023-06-29 20:42       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-30  7:49         ` Yan Zhao
2023-07-14  7:00           ` Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  2:39 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] KVM: x86/mmu: serialize vCPUs to zap gfn when guest MTRRs are honored Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  7:45   ` Yuan Yao
2023-06-16  7:37     ` Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  8:09       ` Yuan Yao
2023-06-16  7:50         ` Yan Zhao
2023-06-28 23:00   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-29  1:51     ` Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  2:41 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] KVM: x86/mmu: fine-grained gfn zap " Yan Zhao
2023-06-16  2:42 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] KVM: x86/mmu: split a single gfn zap range " Yan Zhao
2023-06-28 23:02 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] KVM: x86/mmu: refine memtype related mmu zap Sean Christopherson
2023-07-14  7:11   ` Yan Zhao

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