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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v2 09/18] printk: nbcon: Start printing threads
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:13:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZnL1gGFeW073gm62@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZnGo-7ctV9oidQM8@pathway.suse.cz>

On Tue 2024-06-18 17:34:22, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Tue 2024-06-04 01:30:44, John Ogness wrote:
> > If there are no boot consoles, the printing threads are started
> > in early_initcall.
> > 
> > If there are boot consoles, the printing threads are started
> > after the last boot console has unregistered. The printing
> > threads do not need to be concerned about boot consoles because
> > boot consoles cannot register once a non-boot console has
> > registered.
> > 
> > Until a printing thread of a console has started, that console
> > will print using atomic_write() in the printk() caller context.
>
> > --- a/kernel/printk/nbcon.c
> > +++ b/kernel/printk/nbcon.c
> > @@ -1568,6 +1570,19 @@ void nbcon_kthread_create(struct console *con)
> >  	sched_set_normal(con->kthread, -20);
> >  }
> >  
> > +static int __init printk_setup_threads(void)
> > +{
> > +	struct console *con;
> > +
> > +	console_list_lock();
> > +	printk_threads_enabled = true;
> 
> What is the actual meaning of the variable?
> 
> Does it mean that kthreads can be created? (can be forked?)
> 
> It does not guarantee that the kthreads will be running.
> They might still get blocked by a boot console.

I have investigated it more. And it looks like the variable
means that the system is initialized enough to support
the kthreads.

It is similar to the variable __printk_percpu_data_ready.

I am not sure if it would have helped to prevent the confusion
but I would suggest to rename it and add a comment:

/*
 * The graphics console drivers are going to use workqueues.
 * This variable is set to true when they are safe to use.
 */
static bool __printk_threads_ready __ro_after_init;

> 
> > +	for_each_console(con)
> > +		nbcon_kthread_create(con);

Also we should make it more clear when this function is supposed
to succeed. I mean:

	if (have_nbcon_console && !have_boot_console)
		for_each_console(con)
			nbcon_kthread_create(con);

And similar in unregister_console()

	/*
	 * When the last boot console unregisters, start up the
	 * printing threads.
	 */
	if (is_boot_con && have_nbcon_console && !have_boot_console) {
		for_each_console(c)
			nbcon_kthread_create(c);
	}

The same condition (have_nbcon_console && !have_boot_console)
is used on many other locations.

In another mail, I suggested to define a macro for this condition:

    #define printing_via_context_safe (have_nbcon_console && !have_boot_console)

It might be even better because it would connect the related
code via cscope.

Hmm, the "_safe" suffix might be confusing in this context.
A better name might be "printing_via_nbcon_context" so that
we have:

/* Printing serialized by console_lock dance is needed. */
#define printing_via_unlock (have_legacy_console || have_boot_console)

/* Printing serialized by nbcon console context is needed and safe. */
#define printing_via_nbcon_context (have_nbcon_console && !have_boot_console)

> > +	console_list_unlock();
> > +	return 0;
> > +}
> > +early_initcall(printk_setup_threads);
> > +
> >  /**
> >   * nbcon_alloc - Allocate buffers needed by the nbcon console
> >   * @con:	Console to allocate buffers for
> > --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c
> > +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> > @@ -2397,6 +2400,7 @@ asmlinkage int vprintk_emit(int facility, int level,
> >  		 * consoles cannot print simultaneously with boot consoles.
> >  		 */
> >  		if (is_panic_context ||
> > +		    !printk_threads_enabled ||
> >  		    (system_state > SYSTEM_RUNNING)) {
> >  			nbcon_atomic_flush_pending();
> 
> IMHO, this is not safe. nbcon_atomic_flush_pending()
> is synchronized only via the nbcon console context.
> It means that there might be races with boot consoles.
> 
> Another problem is the meaning of @printk_threads_enabled variable.
> It does not guarantee that the kthreads are running. They might
> still be blocked by boot consoles.
> 
> 
> BTW: The same problem might have the system_state > SYSTEM_RUNNING.
>      The boot consoles are removed only when the preferred console
>      is registered and "keep_bootcon" is not set.
> 
>      Note that printk_late_init() unregisters the boot consoles
>      only when they are using a code in the init sections.
> 
> >  		}

I take it back. We are on the safe side because the above code is
called only when

	if (have_nbcon_console && !have_boot_console)

This is why I suggest to use the same condition around the code
starting the kthreads. It might help to create the mental
model.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-19 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-03 23:24 [PATCH printk v2 00/18] add threaded printing + the rest John Ogness
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 01/18] printk: Add function to replay kernel log on consoles John Ogness
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 02/18] tty/sysrq: Replay kernel log messages on consoles via sysrq John Ogness
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 03/18] printk: Rename console_replay_all() and update context John Ogness
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 04/18] printk: nbcon: Introduce printing kthreads John Ogness
2024-06-07 13:17   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-10 12:09     ` John Ogness
2024-06-11 14:51       ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-12  8:51         ` John Ogness
2024-06-12  9:24           ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-12 11:18             ` John Ogness
2024-06-12 11:33               ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-13 15:21           ` John Ogness
2024-06-14  7:40             ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 05/18] printk: Atomic print in printk context on shutdown John Ogness
2024-06-13 12:32   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-13 12:44   ` atomic_flush vs boot consoles - was: " Petr Mladek
2024-06-13 12:52     ` [PATCH] printk: nbcon_atomic_flush_pending() is safe only when there is no boot console Petr Mladek
2024-06-13 15:10       ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-25 20:53       ` John Ogness
2024-06-28 15:51         ` how to flush consoles: was: " Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 06/18] printk: nbcon: Add context to console_is_usable() John Ogness
2024-06-13 13:22   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 07/18] printk: nbcon: Add printer thread wakeups John Ogness
2024-06-13 15:08   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 08/18] printk: nbcon: Stop threads on shutdown/reboot John Ogness
2024-06-17 15:21   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-25 19:56     ` John Ogness
2024-06-26 12:14       ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 09/18] printk: nbcon: Start printing threads John Ogness
2024-06-18 15:34   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-19 15:13     ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 10/18] printk: Provide helper for message prepending John Ogness
2024-06-20 10:28   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 11/18] printk: nbcon: Show replay message on takeover John Ogness
2024-06-20 13:02   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 12/18] printk: Add kthread for all legacy consoles John Ogness
2024-06-28 11:46   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-28 12:22     ` John Ogness
2024-06-28 13:32       ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-28 14:11         ` John Ogness
2024-06-28 15:56           ` John Ogness
2024-07-01 15:33             ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-01 21:01               ` John Ogness
2024-07-02  9:11                 ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-01 14:50           ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-02  9:30             ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 13/18] proc: consoles: Add notation to c_start/c_stop John Ogness
2024-07-01 15:43   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 14/18] proc: Add nbcon support for /proc/consoles John Ogness
2024-07-01 15:47   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 15/18] tty: sysfs: Add nbcon support for 'active' John Ogness
2024-06-04 11:48   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-07-01 15:50   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 16/18] printk: Provide threadprintk boot argument John Ogness
2024-07-02 12:12   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 17/18] printk: Avoid false positive lockdep report for legacy printing John Ogness
2024-07-02 13:26   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-03 23:24 ` [PATCH printk v2 18/18] printk: nbcon: Add function for printers to reacquire ownership John Ogness
2024-07-02 14:31   ` Petr Mladek
2024-06-04 13:31 ` [PATCH printk v2 00/18] add threaded printing + the rest Juri Lelli
2024-06-05  8:09   ` John Ogness
2024-06-05  9:32     ` Juri Lelli

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