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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Cc: Wardenjohn <zhangwarden@gmail.com>,
	jpoimboe@kernel.org, jikos@kernel.org, joe.lawrence@redhat.com,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] livepatch: Add using attribute to klp_func for using function show
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 18:13:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZtsqLiJPy5e70Ows@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.21.2409051215140.8559@pobox.suse.cz>

On Thu 2024-09-05 12:23:20, Miroslav Benes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024, Wardenjohn wrote:
> 
> > One system may contains more than one livepatch module. We can see
> > which patch is enabled. If some patches applied to one system
> > modifing the same function, livepatch will use the function enabled
> > on top of the function stack. However, we can not excatly know
> > which function of which patch is now enabling.
> > 
> > This patch introduce one sysfs attribute of "using" to klp_func.
> > For example, if there are serval patches  make changes to function
> > "meminfo_proc_show", the attribute "enabled" of all the patch is 1.
> > With this attribute, we can easily know the version enabling belongs
> > to which patch.
> > 
> > The "using" is set as three state. 0 is disabled, it means that this
> > version of function is not used. 1 is running, it means that this
> > version of function is now running. -1 is unknown, it means that
> > this version of function is under transition, some task is still
> > chaning their running version of this function.
> > 
> > cat /sys/kernel/livepatch/<patch1>/<object1>/<function1,sympos>/using -> 0
> > means that the function1 of patch1 is disabled.
> > 
> > cat /sys/kernel/livepatch/<patchN>/<object1>/<function1,sympos>/using -> 1
> > means that the function1 of patchN is enabled.
> > 
> > cat /sys/kernel/livepatch/<patchN>/<object1>/<function1,sympos>/using -> -1
> > means that the function1 of patchN is under transition and unknown.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Wardenjohn <zhangwarden@gmail.com>
> 
> I am not a fan. Josh wrote most of my objections already so I will not 
> repeat them. I understand that the attribute might be useful but the 
> amount of code it adds to sensitive functions like 
> klp_complete_transition() is no fun.
> 
> Would it be possible to just use klp_transition_patch and implement the 
> logic just in using_show()? I have not thought through it completely but 
> klp_transition_patch is also an indicator that there is a transition going 
> on. It is set to NULL only after all func->transition are false. So if you 
> check that, you can assign -1 in using_show() immediately and then just 
> look at the top of func_stack.

The 1st patch adds the pointer to struct klp_ops into struct
klp_func. We might check the state a similar way as klp_ftrace_handler().

I had something like this in mind when I suggested to move the pointer:

static ssize_t using_show(struct kobject *kobj,
				struct kobj_attribute *attr, char *buf)
{
	struct klp_func *func, *using_func;
	struct klp_ops *ops;
	int using;

	func = container_of(kobj, struct klp_func, kobj);

	rcu_read_lock();

	if (func->transition) {
		using = -1;
		goto out;
	}

	# FIXME: This requires releasing struct klp_ops via call_rcu()
	ops = func->ops;
	if (!ops) {
		using = 0;
		goto out;
	}

	using_func = list_first_or_null_rcu(&ops->func_stack,
					struct klp_func, stack_node);
	if (func == using_func)
		using = 1;
	else
		using = 0;

out:
	rcu_read_unlock();

	return sysfs_emit(buf, "%d\n", func->using);
}

It is racy and tricky. We probably should add some memory barriers.
And maybe even the ordering of reads should be different.

We could not take klp_mutex because it might cause a deadlock when
the sysfs file gets removed. kobject_put(&func->kobj) is called
by __klp_free_funcs() under klp_mutex.

It would be easier if we could take klp_mutex. But it would require
decrementing the kobject refcout without of klp_mutex. It might
be complicated.

I am afraid that this approach is not worth the effort and
is is not the way to go.

Best Regards,
Petr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-06 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-28  2:23 [PATCH v4 0/2] livepatch: Add using attribute to klp_func for using function Wardenjohn
2024-08-28  2:23 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] Introduce klp_ops into klp_func structure Wardenjohn
2024-09-05 10:10   ` Miroslav Benes
2024-09-05 14:33     ` zhang warden
2024-09-06  7:03       ` Miroslav Benes
2024-09-06  9:44         ` zhang warden
2024-09-13  9:46           ` zhang warden
2024-08-28  2:23 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] livepatch: Add using attribute to klp_func for using function show Wardenjohn
2024-09-04  1:54   ` zhang warden
2024-09-04  4:48   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-04  6:34     ` zhang warden
2024-09-04  7:14       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-04  7:30         ` zhang warden
2024-09-04 18:06           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-05 14:03             ` zhang warden
2024-09-05 16:30               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-05 10:23   ` Miroslav Benes
2024-09-05 14:17     ` zhang warden
2024-09-05 16:34     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-06  6:55       ` Miroslav Benes
2024-09-06  9:39       ` zhang warden
2024-09-06 16:39         ` Petr Mladek
2024-09-08  2:31           ` zhang warden
2024-09-06 16:13     ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2024-09-08  2:51       ` zhang warden
2024-09-10  8:01         ` Petr Mladek
2024-09-10  8:09           ` zhang warden

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