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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	"binbin.wu@linux.intel.com" <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
	"Maloor, Kishen" <kishen.maloor@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com" <tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"nik.borisov@suse.com" <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
	"dedekind1@gmail.com" <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	"andrew.cooper3@citrix.com" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] KVM: TDX: Track configurable CPUID bits allowed by KVM
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 14:25:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a085134ba1e80e04ec5737dffaadd5abeb8c6d68.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2cc4bbc3-11d3-48bd-9a9b-a9659fc101a1@intel.com>

On Wed, 2026-09-23 at 19:21 +0800, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> > But userspace doesn't know these bits are not supported by TDX module and
> > KVM. If KVM report them as supported, and it causes problems, we cannot say
> > it's userspace's fault.
> 
> It sounds like a bug fix to existing KVM behavior.
> 
> Current KVM doesn't allow HLE/RTM/WAITPKG because it might cause bad effect on
> the host. But for those #VE related, though KVM doesn't support virtualizing
> the features, it doesn't cause any harm to the host when KVM allows them to be
> configured to TDs. It only causes problems to TDs.
> 
> For normal VMs, KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID and other KVM CAPs serve as the
> interface to report to userspace if a feature is support or not. If userspace
> exposes a feature to guest when KVM reports the feature is not supported, and
> it causes problem to guests, we can say it's userspace's fault.

Yes.

>  But for TDX,
> there is not interface to report KVM's support capabilities. After this
> series, KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES can serve as the interface. So it looks like a
> bug fix to me.

KVM needs to support all the bits that are 1 in the TD. Either directly
configurable or fixed-1 or whatever. Userspace doesn't find out which bits these
are until it does the KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID, at which point it finds out the
"support" in a heavy handed way. So I think userspace does learn everything it
needs already. And as long we don't have new fixed-1 bits, we will avoid KVM
being forced to support things too early.

Except for exposing TD KVM PV bit support, which we already talked about doing
as follow on.



  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-17  7:25 [PATCH v4 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-09-17  7:25 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] KVM: TDX: Track configurable CPUID bits allowed by KVM Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  0:01   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  0:14     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  0:45       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  0:57         ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  1:09           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  1:17             ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-23 11:21               ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-23 14:25                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2026-09-17  7:25 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] KVM: TDX: Report CORE_CAPABILITIES as configurable Binbin Wu
2026-09-22 21:11   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  0:03     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-17  7:25 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] KVM: TDX: Filter configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  0:16   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  0:28     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  0:34       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-17  7:25 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] KVM: TDX: Validate userspace CPUID input for KVM_TDX_INIT_VM Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  0:16   ` Edgecombe, Rick P

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