From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] sched: idle: Consolidate the handling of two special cases
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 15:45:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a102eb05-9051-43bb-9f25-accf71498f6a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0grtJVtj7oGDRJ=gyWVs6VnGcydOURJ5aDfE6qVn8nkXg@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/13/26 15:28, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 3:04 PM Christian Loehle
> <christian.loehle@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/13/26 13:07, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 1:53 PM Christian Loehle
>>> <christian.loehle@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 3/13/26 12:25, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two special cases in the idle loop that are handled
>>>>> inconsistently even though they are analogous.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first one is when a cpuidle driver is absent and the default CPU
>>>>> idle time power management implemented by the architecture code is used.
>>>>> In that case, the scheduler tick is stopped every time before invoking
>>>>> default_idle_call().
>>>>>
>>>>> The second one is when a cpuidle driver is present, but there is only
>>>>> one idle state in its table. In that case, the scheduler tick is never
>>>>> stopped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since each of these approaches leads to suboptimal choices in some
>>>>> cases, reconcile them with the help of one simple heuristic. Namely,
>>>>> stop the tick if the CPU has been woken up by it in the previous
>>>>> iteration of the idle loop, or let it tick otherwise.>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on today's mainline.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> kernel/sched/idle.c | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++---------
>>>>> 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/idle.c
>>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/idle.c
>>>>> @@ -161,6 +161,14 @@ static int call_cpuidle(struct cpuidle_d
>>>>> return cpuidle_enter(drv, dev, next_state);
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> +static void idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(bool stop_tick)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> + if (stop_tick || tick_nohz_tick_stopped())
>>>>> + tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
>>>>> + else
>>>>> + tick_nohz_idle_retain_tick();
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>> /**
>>>>> * cpuidle_idle_call - the main idle function
>>>>> *
>>>>> @@ -170,7 +178,7 @@ static int call_cpuidle(struct cpuidle_d
>>>>> * set, and it returns with polling set. If it ever stops polling, it
>>>>> * must clear the polling bit.
>>>>> */
>>>>> -static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
>>>>> +static void cpuidle_idle_call(bool stop_tick)
>>>>> {
>>>>> struct cpuidle_device *dev = cpuidle_get_device();
>>>>> struct cpuidle_driver *drv = cpuidle_get_cpu_driver(dev);
>>>>> @@ -186,7 +194,7 @@ static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> if (cpuidle_not_available(drv, dev)) {
>>>>> - tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
>>>>> + idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(stop_tick);
>>>>>
>>>>> default_idle_call();
>>>>> goto exit_idle;
>>>>> @@ -222,17 +230,19 @@ static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
>>>>> next_state = cpuidle_find_deepest_state(drv, dev, max_latency_ns);
>>>>> call_cpuidle(drv, dev, next_state);
>>>>> } else if (drv->state_count > 1) {
>>>>> - bool stop_tick = true;
>>>>> + /*
>>>>> + * stop_tick is expected to be true by default by cpuidle
>>>>> + * governors, which allows them to select idle states with
>>>>> + * target residency above the tick period length.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> + stop_tick = true;
>>>>>
>>>>> /*
>>>>> * Ask the cpuidle framework to choose a convenient idle state.
>>>>> */
>>>>> next_state = cpuidle_select(drv, dev, &stop_tick);
>>>>>
>>>>> - if (stop_tick || tick_nohz_tick_stopped())
>>>>> - tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
>>>>> - else
>>>>> - tick_nohz_idle_retain_tick();
>>>>> + idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(stop_tick);
>>>>>
>>>>> entered_state = call_cpuidle(drv, dev, next_state);
>>>>> /*
>>>>> @@ -240,7 +250,7 @@ static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
>>>>> */
>>>>> cpuidle_reflect(dev, entered_state);
>>>>> } else {
>>>>> - tick_nohz_idle_retain_tick();
>>>>> + idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(stop_tick);
>>>>
>>>> This would supersede e5c9ffc6ae1b ("cpuidle: Skip governor when only one idle state is available")
>>>> so we should remove that code too.
>>>
>>> Which code? Do you mean the one that has been removed by
>>>
>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=d557640e4ce589a24dca5ca7ce3b9680f471325f
>>>
>> Ah of course, sorry!
>
> No worries.
>
>> Reviewed-by: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
>
> So should I regard this as a fix for 7.0?
>
> I guess so because I don't think it would be useful to ship 7.0
> without it only to change the behavior immediately in 7.1. And I
> think that it can be treated as a fix for e5c9ffc6ae1b (above).
Yes I think it being a fix for e5c9ffc6ae1b should be fine (fingers crossed).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-13 15:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-13 12:25 Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-13 12:53 ` Christian Loehle
2026-03-13 13:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-13 14:03 ` Christian Loehle
2026-03-13 15:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-13 15:45 ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2026-03-14 11:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-13 14:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-13 15:22 ` Qais Yousef
2026-03-16 7:54 ` Aboorva Devarajan
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