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From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] sched: idle: Consolidate the handling of two special cases
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 14:03:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae9d5cba-f525-48bb-bac4-cbd50db1dbac@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0hnamFh6YUriWLgdWip6mRer69pNcL3ueBt5Aux6fzsgg@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/13/26 13:07, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 1:53 PM Christian Loehle
> <christian.loehle@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/13/26 12:25, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>>>
>>> There are two special cases in the idle loop that are handled
>>> inconsistently even though they are analogous.
>>>
>>> The first one is when a cpuidle driver is absent and the default CPU
>>> idle time power management implemented by the architecture code is used.
>>> In that case, the scheduler tick is stopped every time before invoking
>>> default_idle_call().
>>>
>>> The second one is when a cpuidle driver is present, but there is only
>>> one idle state in its table.  In that case, the scheduler tick is never
>>> stopped.
>>>
>>> Since each of these approaches leads to suboptimal choices in some
>>> cases, reconcile them with the help of one simple heuristic.  Namely,
>>> stop the tick if the CPU has been woken up by it in the previous
>>> iteration of the idle loop, or let it tick otherwise.>
>>> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Based on today's mainline.
>>>
>>> ---
>>>  kernel/sched/idle.c |   30 +++++++++++++++++++++---------
>>>  1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> --- a/kernel/sched/idle.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/idle.c
>>> @@ -161,6 +161,14 @@ static int call_cpuidle(struct cpuidle_d
>>>       return cpuidle_enter(drv, dev, next_state);
>>>  }
>>>
>>> +static void idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(bool stop_tick)
>>> +{
>>> +     if (stop_tick || tick_nohz_tick_stopped())
>>> +             tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
>>> +     else
>>> +             tick_nohz_idle_retain_tick();
>>> +}
>>> +
>>>  /**
>>>   * cpuidle_idle_call - the main idle function
>>>   *
>>> @@ -170,7 +178,7 @@ static int call_cpuidle(struct cpuidle_d
>>>   * set, and it returns with polling set.  If it ever stops polling, it
>>>   * must clear the polling bit.
>>>   */
>>> -static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
>>> +static void cpuidle_idle_call(bool stop_tick)
>>>  {
>>>       struct cpuidle_device *dev = cpuidle_get_device();
>>>       struct cpuidle_driver *drv = cpuidle_get_cpu_driver(dev);
>>> @@ -186,7 +194,7 @@ static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
>>>       }
>>>
>>>       if (cpuidle_not_available(drv, dev)) {
>>> -             tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
>>> +             idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(stop_tick);
>>>
>>>               default_idle_call();
>>>               goto exit_idle;
>>> @@ -222,17 +230,19 @@ static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
>>>               next_state = cpuidle_find_deepest_state(drv, dev, max_latency_ns);
>>>               call_cpuidle(drv, dev, next_state);
>>>       } else if (drv->state_count > 1) {
>>> -             bool stop_tick = true;
>>> +             /*
>>> +              * stop_tick is expected to be true by default by cpuidle
>>> +              * governors, which allows them to select idle states with
>>> +              * target residency above the tick period length.
>>> +              */
>>> +             stop_tick = true;
>>>
>>>               /*
>>>                * Ask the cpuidle framework to choose a convenient idle state.
>>>                */
>>>               next_state = cpuidle_select(drv, dev, &stop_tick);
>>>
>>> -             if (stop_tick || tick_nohz_tick_stopped())
>>> -                     tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
>>> -             else
>>> -                     tick_nohz_idle_retain_tick();
>>> +             idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(stop_tick);
>>>
>>>               entered_state = call_cpuidle(drv, dev, next_state);
>>>               /*
>>> @@ -240,7 +250,7 @@ static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
>>>                */
>>>               cpuidle_reflect(dev, entered_state);
>>>       } else {
>>> -             tick_nohz_idle_retain_tick();
>>> +             idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(stop_tick);
>>
>> This would supersede e5c9ffc6ae1b ("cpuidle: Skip governor when only one idle state is available")
>> so we should remove that code too.
> 
> Which code?  Do you mean the one that has been removed by
> 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=d557640e4ce589a24dca5ca7ce3b9680f471325f
> 
Ah of course, sorry!
Reviewed-by: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-13 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-13 12:25 Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-13 12:53 ` Christian Loehle
2026-03-13 13:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-13 14:03     ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2026-03-13 15:28       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-13 15:45         ` Christian Loehle
2026-03-14 11:30           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-03-13 14:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-13 15:22 ` Qais Yousef
2026-03-16  7:54 ` Aboorva Devarajan

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