From: Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
jan.setjeeilers@oracle.com, Junaid Shahid <junaids@google.com>,
oweisse@google.com, Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.de>,
mgross@linux.intel.com, kuzuno@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 13/24] x86/pti: Extend PTI user mappings
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 09:55:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a12e3d8f-e0be-ee64-c8e5-6ccdab861cd1@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUcyHtoZOjkoivDfMZHo0Z-gum_eHP8ca4gPLcTLWu5Xg@mail.gmail.com>
On 11/11/20 12:39 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>
>> On 11/9/20 6:28 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 3:22 AM Alexandre Chartre
>>> <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Extend PTI user mappings so that more kernel entry code can be executed
>>>> with the user page-table. To do so, we need to map syscall and interrupt
>>>> entry code,
>>>
>>> Probably fine.
>>>
>>>> per cpu offsets (__per_cpu_offset, which is used some in
>>>> entry code),
>>>
>>> This likely already leaks due to vulnerable CPUs leaking address space
>>> layout info.
>>
>> I forgot to update the comment, I am not mapping __per_cpu_offset anymore.
>>
>> However, if we do map __per_cpu_offset then we don't need to enforce the
>> ordering in paranoid_entry to switch CR3 before GS.
>
> I'm okay with mapping __per_cpu_offset.
>
Good. That way I can move the GS update back to assembly code (paranoid_entry/exit
will be mostly reduce to updating GS), and probably I won't need to disable
stack-protector.
>>>
>>>> the stack canary,
>>>
>>> That's going to be a very tough sell.
>>>
>>
>> I can get rid of this, but this will require to disable stack-protector for
>> any function that we can call while using the user page-table, like already
>> done in patch 21 (x86/entry: Disable stack-protector for IST entry C handlers).
>>
>
> You could probably get away with using a different stack protector
> canary before and after the CR3 switch as long as you are careful to
> have the canary restored when you return from whatever function is
> involved.
>
I was thinking about doing that. I will give it a try.
Thanks,
alex.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-11 8:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-09 14:44 [RFC][PATCH 00/24] x86/pti: Defer CR3 switch to C code Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/24] x86/syscall: Add wrapper for invoking syscall function Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/24] x86/entry: Update asm_call_on_stack to support more function arguments Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/24] x86/entry: Consolidate IST entry from userspace Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/24] x86/sev-es: Define a setup stack function for the VC idtentry Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/24] x86/entry: Implement ret_from_fork body with C code Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/24] x86/pti: Provide C variants of PTI switch CR3 macros Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/24] x86/entry: Fill ESPFIX stack using C code Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/24] x86/entry: Add C version of SWAPGS and SWAPGS_UNSAFE_STACK Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 19:55 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/24] x86/entry: Add C version of paranoid_entry/exit Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/24] x86/pti: Introduce per-task PTI trampoline stack Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/24] x86/pti: Function to clone page-table entries from a specified mm Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/24] x86/pti: Function to map per-cpu page-table entry Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/24] x86/pti: Extend PTI user mappings Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 19:56 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-10 23:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-11 8:55 ` Alexandre Chartre [this message]
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/24] x86/pti: Use PTI stack instead of trampoline stack Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 15/24] x86/pti: Execute syscall functions on the kernel stack Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 16/24] x86/pti: Execute IDT handlers " Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 17/24] x86/pti: Execute IDT handlers with error code " Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 18/24] x86/pti: Execute system vector handlers " Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 19/24] x86/pti: Execute page fault handler " Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 20/24] x86/pti: Execute NMI " Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 21/24] x86/entry: Disable stack-protector for IST entry C handlers Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 22/24] x86/entry: Defer paranoid entry/exit to C code Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 23/24] x86/entry: Remove paranoid_entry and paranoid_exit Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 14:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 24/24] x86/pti: Defer CR3 switch to C code for non-IST and syscall entries Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/24] x86/pti: Defer CR3 switch to C code Dave Hansen
2020-11-09 19:53 ` Alexandre Chartre
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-11-09 11:22 Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 11:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/24] x86/pti: Extend PTI user mappings Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-09 17:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-09 17:52 ` Alexandre Chartre
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