From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
syzbot+208f7f3e5f59c11aeb90@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
Carsten Stollmaier <stollmc@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/20] locking/rt: Use raw_spin_lock_irqsave() in __rwbase_read_unlock()
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2026 14:22:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a3e5ece99a422af3003396101a2572a4af71f0aa.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260601144724.ARQR8tYh@linutronix.de>
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On Mon, 2026-06-01 at 16:47 +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-06-01 14:53:14 [+0100], David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Mon, 2026-06-01 at 15:40 +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay. This complains about non_block:
> > >
> > > …
> > > > [ 429.927260] KVM: non-blockable invalidate_range_start, non_block_count=1
> > >
> > > and commit 312364f3534cc ("kernel.h: Add non_block_start/end()") says
> > >
> > > > Peter also asked whether we want to catch spinlocks on top, but Michal
> > > > said those are less of a problem because spinlocks can't have an indirect
> > > > dependency upon the page allocator and hence close the loop with the oom
> > > > reaper.
> > >
> > > so a lock which becomes sleep-able on RT vs !RT shouldn't be a problem,
> > > right? We also don't complain about about scheduling within a
> > > rcu_read_lock() section if it is part of spin_lock().
> >
> > Right. This is just a false positive in the debugging check, AFAICT.
> >
> > It's actually *fine* to take a spinlock or rwlock in the OOM reaper
> > path, *even* if RT makes them in sleepable locks. And I think even the
> > KVM_REQUEST_WAIT IPI is fine.
> >
> > But to fix the false positive warning, *either*:
> >
> > • non_block_start() shouldn't complain about "sleepable only in RT" locks,
> >
> > OR
> >
> > • The OOM reaper path shouldn't use non_block_start() under RT.
>
> Looking at the list of users it was probably introduced for the mm
> folks. Let me add this to my list of things to look at…
I'm leaning toward the second of the two options above: the OOM reaper
path shouldn't use non_block_start() under RT. Effectively reverting
commit ba170f76b69d1.
Mostly because I want to have an RCU grace period in there, and *that*
would splat too, for no good reason that I can see.
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-29 16:50 [PATCH v2 00/20] KVM: x86/xen: Fix Xen/GP/PREEMPT_RT issues with rwlock_t Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] locking/rt: Use raw_spin_lock_irqsave() in __rwbase_read_unlock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 19:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-29 19:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-29 20:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 20:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-29 20:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-30 0:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-30 10:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-30 12:47 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-30 14:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-01 10:52 ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-01 13:01 ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-01 13:40 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-01 13:53 ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-01 14:47 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-01 15:11 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-04 12:22 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2026-06-01 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-01 10:04 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-30 13:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-01 8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-01 11:11 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-01 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-01 19:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-06-02 7:34 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-04 23:58 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-29 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] KVM: x86/xen: Use read_trylock() for GPC locks in hardirq/atomic paths Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 23:28 ` Hillf Danton
2026-05-29 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] KVM: x86/xen: Remove unnecessary irqsave from GPC lock usage in xen.c Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] KVM: x86: Remove unnecessary irqsave from kvm_setup_guest_pvclock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:50 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] KVM: Remove unnecessary IRQ disabling from GPC lock in pfncache.c Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] KVM: x86/xen: Use guard() to grab kvm->srcu around gpc critical sections Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] KVM: x86/xen: Extract delivery of event to vCPU into a separate helper Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] KVM: x86/xen: Explicitly tag "shared info" page as never being dirty tracked Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] KVM: x86/xen: Don't dirty track "vCPU info" page Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] KVM: Move {g,p}fn <=> {g,h}pa conversion helpers to kvm_types.h Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] KVM: Add CLASS() constructs to automagically handle lock+check of gpc Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] KVM: x86/xen: Convert kvm_xen_shared_info_init() to gpc's CLASS() APIs Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] KVM: x86/xen: Don't bother waiting on gpc->lock in SCHEDOP_poll Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] KVM: x86/xen: Convert wait_pending_event() to gpc's CLASS() APIs Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] KVM: x86/xen: Convert kvm_xen_set_evtchn_fast() " Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] KVM: x86/xen: Convert xen_get_guest_pvclock() " Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] KVM: x86/xen: Drop local "kick_vcpu" from __kvm_xen_set_evtchn_fast() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] KVM: x86/xen: Convert event injection to gpc's CLASS() APIs Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] KVM: Add "extended" gpc CLASS() APIs for sometimes-atomic cases Sean Christopherson
2026-05-29 16:51 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] KVM: x86: Use gfn_to_pfn_cache for record_steal_time Sean Christopherson
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