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From: Jens Remus <jremus@linux.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
	"Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@gnu.org>,
	Beau Belgrave <beaub@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 02/14] unwind_user: Add frame pointer support
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 17:36:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6a460e6-8cff-4353-a9e1-2e071d28e993@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250630225603.72c84e67@gandalf.local.home>

On 01.07.2025 04:56, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 19:10:09 -0700
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 at 17:54, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> +       /* stack going in wrong direction? */
>>> +       if (cfa <= state->sp)
>>> +               goto done;  
>>
>> I suspect this should do a lot more testing.
> 
> Sure.

The above assumes:

	curr_frame_sp = state->sp
	prev_frame_sp = cfa   // for arches that define CFA as SP at call site

On s390 the prev_frame_sp may be equal to curr_frame_sp for the topmost
frame, as long as the topmost function did not allocate any stack.  For
instance when early in the prologue or when in a leaf function that does
not require any stack space.  My s390 sframe support patches would
therefore currently change above check to:

	/* stack going in wrong direction? */
	if (sp <= state->sp - topmost)
		goto done;

I assume that should be the case for all architectures whose function
call instruction does not modify the SP, unlike x86-64's CALL does.

>>> +       if (frame->fp_off && get_user(fp, (unsigned long __user *)(cfa + frame->fp_off)))
>>> +               goto done;  
>>
>> .. and this should check the frame for validity too.  At a minimum it
>> should be properly aligned, but things like "it had better be above
>> the current frame" to avoid having some loop would seem to be a good
>> idea.
> 
> Makes sense.

On s390 the FP (register) value does not necessarily need to be above
the SP value, as the s390x ELF ABI does only designate a "preferred" FP
register, so that the FP register may be used for other purposes, when a
FP is not required in a function.

So the output FP value cannot be checked on s390.  But the input FP
value could probably be checked as follows before computing the CFA:

	if (frame->use_fp && state->fp < state->sp)
		goto done;

	/* Get the Canonical Frame Address (CFA) */
	cfa = (frame->use_fp ? state->fp : state->sp) + frame->cfa_off;

>> Maybe even check that it's the same vma?
> 
> Hmm, I call on to Jens Remus and ask if s390 can do anything whacky here?
> Where something that isn't allowed on other architectures may be allowed
> there? I know s390 has some strange type of stack usage.

On s390, if a FP is required for dynamic stack allocation, it is only
initialized as late as possible, that is usually after static stack
allocation.  Therefore SP == FP is rather seldom the case.

Regards,
Jens
-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-01 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-01  0:53 [PATCH v12 00/14] unwind_user: x86: Deferred unwinding infrastructure Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 01/14] unwind_user: Add user space unwinding API Steven Rostedt
2025-07-04 17:58   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-04 18:20   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-07 19:42     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-07 21:01       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 02/14] unwind_user: Add frame pointer support Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  2:10   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-01  2:56     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  3:05       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 15:36       ` Jens Remus [this message]
2025-07-02 23:50         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-03 16:21           ` Jens Remus
2025-07-07 21:28             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  4:46     ` Florian Weimer
2025-07-01 12:14       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 03/14] unwind_user: Add compat mode " Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 04/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind_user_faultable() Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 05/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind cache Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 06/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add deferred unwinding interface Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 16:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-02 16:42     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 16:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-02 17:26         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 17:48           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 18:21             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-02 18:47               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-02 19:05                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 19:12                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-02 19:21                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 19:36                       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 19:40                         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 19:48                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-02 20:10                             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 19:43                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-02 19:51                         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 18:57               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 07/14] unwind_user/deferred: Make unwind deferral requests NMI-safe Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 15:53   ` Jens Remus
2025-07-02 19:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 08/14] unwind deferred: Use bitmask to determine which callbacks to call Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 09/14] unwind deferred: Use SRCU unwind_deferred_task_work() Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 10/14] unwind: Clear unwind_mask on exit back to user space Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 11/14] unwind: Add USED bit to only have one conditional on way " Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 12/14] unwind: Finish up unwind when a task exits Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 13/14] unwind_user/x86: Enable frame pointer unwinding on x86 Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  0:53 ` [PATCH v12 14/14] unwind_user/x86: Enable compat mode " Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01  2:06 ` [PATCH v12 00/14] unwind_user: x86: Deferred unwinding infrastructure Linus Torvalds
2025-07-01  2:45   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 22:49     ` Kees Cook
2025-07-01 23:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 14:56         ` Kees Cook
2025-07-02 16:20           ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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