From: Jens Remus <jremus@linux.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
"Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@gnu.org>,
Beau Belgrave <beaub@linux.microsoft.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 02/14] unwind_user: Add frame pointer support
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 17:36:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6a460e6-8cff-4353-a9e1-2e071d28e993@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250630225603.72c84e67@gandalf.local.home>
On 01.07.2025 04:56, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 19:10:09 -0700
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 at 17:54, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> + /* stack going in wrong direction? */
>>> + if (cfa <= state->sp)
>>> + goto done;
>>
>> I suspect this should do a lot more testing.
>
> Sure.
The above assumes:
curr_frame_sp = state->sp
prev_frame_sp = cfa // for arches that define CFA as SP at call site
On s390 the prev_frame_sp may be equal to curr_frame_sp for the topmost
frame, as long as the topmost function did not allocate any stack. For
instance when early in the prologue or when in a leaf function that does
not require any stack space. My s390 sframe support patches would
therefore currently change above check to:
/* stack going in wrong direction? */
if (sp <= state->sp - topmost)
goto done;
I assume that should be the case for all architectures whose function
call instruction does not modify the SP, unlike x86-64's CALL does.
>>> + if (frame->fp_off && get_user(fp, (unsigned long __user *)(cfa + frame->fp_off)))
>>> + goto done;
>>
>> .. and this should check the frame for validity too. At a minimum it
>> should be properly aligned, but things like "it had better be above
>> the current frame" to avoid having some loop would seem to be a good
>> idea.
>
> Makes sense.
On s390 the FP (register) value does not necessarily need to be above
the SP value, as the s390x ELF ABI does only designate a "preferred" FP
register, so that the FP register may be used for other purposes, when a
FP is not required in a function.
So the output FP value cannot be checked on s390. But the input FP
value could probably be checked as follows before computing the CFA:
if (frame->use_fp && state->fp < state->sp)
goto done;
/* Get the Canonical Frame Address (CFA) */
cfa = (frame->use_fp ? state->fp : state->sp) + frame->cfa_off;
>> Maybe even check that it's the same vma?
>
> Hmm, I call on to Jens Remus and ask if s390 can do anything whacky here?
> Where something that isn't allowed on other architectures may be allowed
> there? I know s390 has some strange type of stack usage.
On s390, if a FP is required for dynamic stack allocation, it is only
initialized as late as possible, that is usually after static stack
allocation. Therefore SP == FP is rather seldom the case.
Regards,
Jens
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-01 0:53 [PATCH v12 00/14] unwind_user: x86: Deferred unwinding infrastructure Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 01/14] unwind_user: Add user space unwinding API Steven Rostedt
2025-07-04 17:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-04 18:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-07 19:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-07 21:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 02/14] unwind_user: Add frame pointer support Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 2:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-01 2:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 3:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 15:36 ` Jens Remus [this message]
2025-07-02 23:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-03 16:21 ` Jens Remus
2025-07-07 21:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 4:46 ` Florian Weimer
2025-07-01 12:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 03/14] unwind_user: Add compat mode " Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 04/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind_user_faultable() Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 05/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add unwind cache Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 06/14] unwind_user/deferred: Add deferred unwinding interface Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 16:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-02 16:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-02 17:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 17:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-02 18:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-02 19:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 19:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-02 19:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 19:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 19:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 19:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-02 20:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 19:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-02 19:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 18:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 07/14] unwind_user/deferred: Make unwind deferral requests NMI-safe Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 15:53 ` Jens Remus
2025-07-02 19:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 08/14] unwind deferred: Use bitmask to determine which callbacks to call Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 09/14] unwind deferred: Use SRCU unwind_deferred_task_work() Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 10/14] unwind: Clear unwind_mask on exit back to user space Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 11/14] unwind: Add USED bit to only have one conditional on way " Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 12/14] unwind: Finish up unwind when a task exits Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 13/14] unwind_user/x86: Enable frame pointer unwinding on x86 Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v12 14/14] unwind_user/x86: Enable compat mode " Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 2:06 ` [PATCH v12 00/14] unwind_user: x86: Deferred unwinding infrastructure Linus Torvalds
2025-07-01 2:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-01 22:49 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-01 23:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-02 14:56 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-02 16:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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