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From: "Satyam Sharma" <satyam.sharma@gmail.com>
To: "Eddie C. Dost" <ecd@atecom.com>
Cc: "Matthias Kaehlcke" <matthias.kaehlcke@gmail.com>,
	"Kyle Moffett" <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	chas@cmf.nrl.navy.mil, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] use spinlock instead of binary mutex in idt77252 driver
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:32:06 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a781481a0704230102g1ddd7c33heb65150487228a06@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070423074019.GA14549@gannet>

Hi,

On 4/23/07, Eddie C. Dost <ecd@atecom.com> wrote:
> as long as mutexes are not converted to nop when CONFIG_SMP is not
> defined (I don't know what current kernels do), this is of course
> correct. You need to verify the headerfiles for the above.

Yes, even on UP different threads accessing the same data could race.
Mutexes (== binary semaphores) are *required* to synchronize access to
shared data.

You might be confusing mutexes with spinlocks. Spinlocks _are_
compiled away on UP (actually !CONFIG_SMP && !CONFIG_PREEMPT) kernels,
but that is still safe because spinlocks are busy-waiting loops
(unlike mutexes and semaphores that block) and hence no thread is
allowed to sleep when holding a spinlock.

> On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 09:40:26AM +0200, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> > El Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 09:16:08AM +0200 Eddie C. Dost ha dit:
> > > Please note that the semaphore is used to lock the idt77252 config
> > > tables among multiple users including atmsigd even on single processor
> > > machines. Does this work with mutexes?
> >
> > afaik mutexes have the same behaviour as binary semaphores that are
> > used as mutexes (always locked and unlocked by the same
> > process/thread):

Mutexes / binary semaphores / spinlocks are used to synchronize access
to shared data by *multiple* threads ... there is no meaning in
locking access to something if we know only one thread will ever touch
it.

Cheers,
S

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-23  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-22 21:39 Matthias Kaehlcke
2007-04-22 23:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-04-23  6:55   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2007-04-23  7:16     ` Eddie C. Dost
2007-04-23  7:40       ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2007-04-23  7:40         ` Eddie C. Dost
2007-04-23  7:57           ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2007-04-23  8:02           ` Satyam Sharma [this message]
2007-04-23  8:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23  8:35     ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2007-04-22 23:52 ` Satyam Sharma

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